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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 04:04 PM
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Incredible Michele Bachmann Speech Gets Every Historical Fact Wrong
Why does Michele Bachmann like the history of the founding fathers so much? Because, apparently, you can just make it up as you go along! Listen ye children as we do a “close read” of this speech and discover the many amazing improvised historical facts Michele Bachmann made up for us.

Let’s skip past the “the Tom Addison, the Tom Adams, err, John Adamses” part of this speech, and the part when she says immigrants are good, if they were born in the seventeenth century and were white. Cue it up to 9:00 or so.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGSCF712FCA

9:30—Thomas Jefferson would be very interested to find out he plagiarized whole-cloth, without crediting those weirdo pilgrims, some sort of prayer thing from the Mayflower Compact. But it’s her word against his, and he never raised millions of dollars and blanketed the air with teevee ads, so he automatically loses.

9:40—Eighteenth-century America: “It didn’t matter the color of their skin, it didn’t matter their language, it didn’t matter their economic status… it made no difference. Once you got here, we were all the same. Isn’t that remarkable.” Yes, yes it certainly is! Those black slaves and poor white indentured servants were idiots! They didn’t realize they lived in a totally equal society, completely in line with one another. They just thought they were de-jure or de-facto owned by other humans! Whoops! COLONIAL FAIL! (Also: If this sounds like socialism, it WASN’T. Michele says the Pilgrims didn’t come over here for universal health care, so there.)

10:20—”We know there was still slavery that was still tolerated when the nation began.” Oh! So, forget all that other shit she said? “But we also know that the very founders who wrote those documents worked tirelessly until slavery was no more in the United States. And I think it is high time that we recognize the contribution of our forbearers who worked tirelessly, men like John Quincy Adams, who would not rest until slavery was extinguished in the country.” She is really stressing the “tirelessly” here, because isn’t it weird that the Constitution would have nothing about slavery in it? And how so many of its framers wanted slavery and owned slaves themselves? People like, let’s see here, “the George Washingtons and the Thomas Jeffersons” she discussed earlier? They must have gotten pretty tired fighting Michele’s “evil” people who owned slaves (themselves). So tired, in fact, that though they “would not rest” until they finally saw slavery banned, they actually all died many decades before it happened! That just shows how dedicated the founders were. Their ghosts did more than half of century of grunt work on an issue they could have just solved in the Constitution without so much bloodshed.

11:15—”We were a self-correcting country.” Yes, that sure is one way to describe it.

12:30—”Did you ever think in your lifetime that you would see the federal government purchase the largest car companies in the United States.” No. Because most people, those of us who believe in things like “sales figures” and “reported profits” realize GM and Chrysler aren’t the two largest car companies in the United States. There aren’t even the two largest American car companies in the United States. And the government didn’t even really buy these companies; one is a private company, and the other is publicly traded. You know what this means? Toyota and Ford are probably owned by the government too, and all cars are made by welfare queens in Mexican slums built between the local Lowe’s and Home Depot. Also, the country didn’t buy those banks she listed. And Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae were set up by the government and were government-sponsored enterprises. But whatever, she’s been right about everything up to this point in her speech, right?

Anyway, your next president! She will be able to rewrite history at any point, whether it’s the most ancient of history of humankind, or something she did five minutes ago.

http://wonkette.com/435940/incredible-michele-bachmann-speech-gets-every-single-historical-fact-wrong#more-435940
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 04:15 PM
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1. The ghost argument is a great one.
Edited on Mon Jan-24-11 04:19 PM by RandomThoughts
It allows for pick and choose concepts of who actually achieves anything from their actions.

Don't like someone, say it was all the ghosts helping them or working through them, even against there own interest.

You like someone, say they made some great contribution, must have been that they deserved something.

Funny how people are.

Most of the opposites decide if you have something, then you should, and what you have defines if you should have it. From that any way that you can get something is fine with them, corruption, theft, deceit, doesn't matter what you do, they believe if you can get it, you must deserve it.

That is the truth of those without morals, they actually think what they have defines that they should have it, and think people can only do what 'they are allowed to do by God' by God using a complete control of everyone.

It is hard when thinking about those types, because there really is no way to convince them, since they define by status quo. Also why the Constitution said a 'more perfect union' because the world is not perfect yet although that doctrine thinks it has always been perfect, and everything has always been how it should be.


:rofl:

It is a funny topic.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 04:17 PM
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2. omg the Founding Fathers worked tirelessly until slavery was no more?
how can that make sense to her or to anyone listening to her?
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 04:32 PM
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11. I guess she didn't read the part...
About the founding fathers who were slave owners.
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 05:11 PM
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17. You can take it to the bank she's never read that Constitution she swore
to preserve, protect and defend. You can't miss that "three fifths of all other persons". I mean it's in the first Article, the one concerning congresscriters.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 05:12 PM
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18. Or of the Civil War.
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bulloney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 08:50 AM
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26. I've said there's a direct correlation between how conservative you are
and how ignorant you are on history. That's about the only way conservatives can justify their positions on things.

They act like their policies are historically superior to liberal policies. Never mind that the Great Depression began under a Republican administration (Hoover) and a Congress controlled by Republicans. In fact the two preceding administrations were Republican and the Repubs controlled Congress every year under those administrations.

Fast-forward to the current recession/depression which began during a Republican administration with Republicans controlling both houses of Congress.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 04:18 PM
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3. "they came here for limitless opportunity"????
Edited on Mon Jan-24-11 04:20 PM by chelsea0011
What is interesting about her speech and Palin's and Beck's ramblings is not that they may sense, it's that the people who listen to this crap believe there is some truthiness to it.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 04:19 PM
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4. She doesn't care.
They are deliberately rewriting history. Unfortunately, it will be effective propaganda.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 04:23 PM
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5. Good enough for the Teabaggers. We don't need no education.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 08:42 PM
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23. "We don't need no thought control."
How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 04:23 PM
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6. I really hope she runs for president...
every day a new act in her circus.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 04:23 PM
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7. I am sure those slaves\indentured servants
would like to know that

Time for images of that equality.







And for those servants





Yep they were equal to these guys...





Somebody clue her that history actually matters and that the Party has not yet reached full control of the past...
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 04:30 PM
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8. Teabaggers don't care--they also make up things as they go along
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 04:30 PM
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9. Thanks a lot meegbear. I could feel the brain cells dying off with every word.
You are indeed a very brave bear.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 04:32 PM
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10. Did she talk about the impact of the Germans bombing Pearl Harbor?
:rofl:
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 05:08 PM
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16. Don't you hear? Lt Ron Reagan singlehandedly stopped them
at the Battle of Midway or Bulge or Valley Forge or something.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 09:50 AM
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27. I thought he was busy doing that 1 if by land, 2 if by sea run
Go figure
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 10:32 AM
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30. Well, that too. And heading the Reagan Clarke expedition n/t
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 04:41 PM
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12. K&R-Amazing how many people voted for this asshole...they have to be even dumber than
she is!


mark
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BobbyBoring Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 10:35 AM
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31. Yeah Really
I always had such a high opinion of Minnesotans. Mystery to me~
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 11:05 AM
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34. Must have been from the Mary Tyler Moore Show...nt
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 04:49 PM
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13. oughta be on the front page in her district. nt
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 04:49 PM
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14. She's a pistol, alright!
Probably doesn't even have "bang" spelled correctly on the flag that pops out.
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 05:01 PM
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15. Good grief! How could anyone sit still and listen to that crap?
They must not have allowed applause, although their minds were probably drifting back through history to try to catch up to what she was talking about and no one was actually listening. What a mish-mash of "facts"!

The woman is nuts.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 05:20 PM
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19. As a MN resident I want to know where she got her education at?
That school district should be closed down and their students bused to another district before they produce more of her kind. We definitely wasted our money on her.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 05:22 PM
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20. Truth and facts mean nothing to them.




They just make shit up as they go along to fit into their story line.


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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 09:55 AM
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29. The party of MSU. GOP MSU grand ol party of perverts making shit up.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 05:52 PM
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21. K & R
:thumbsup:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 07:53 PM
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22. K&R. (nt)
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 10:18 PM
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24. Oy
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 11:05 PM
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25. I have a feeling that Michele Bachmann
will run for President of the United States, as a Tea Party Candidate. OMG... What a disaster she would be to this country, sitting in the big chair.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 09:52 AM
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28. LOL!!!
:rofl:


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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 10:38 AM
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32. Count on Big Media to leave this hag alone
She's stupider and more psycho than Palin, but her rants are never criticized by the Republican Media Machine
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 10:38 AM
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33. Makes me embarrassed for my country.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 11:36 AM
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35. Kicked for great justice. (n/t)
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LeftinOH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 12:17 PM
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36. The country from which we broke away (Britain) banned slavery long before the USA did..
not that she's interested in facts or anything.
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