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GSLevel9 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 03:26 PM Original message |
Save the Earth in this 70mpg diesel |
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NuclearDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
1. People can bash the Volt all they want... |
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GSLevel9 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 03:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. in theory I agree... |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 03:40 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. remember to add back in the dirty power used to produce and move diesel too. |
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GSLevel9 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 03:45 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. true... but |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-28-11 05:33 AM Response to Reply #9 |
22. Of course - but there is no need to disparage *even better* alternatives to do that |
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NuclearDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 03:53 PM Response to Reply #2 |
11. Well, the cost to recharge a Volt battery is pretty insignificant |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 05:45 PM Response to Reply #11 |
37. "Pretty insignificant" is not at all true. |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 03:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. But diesel can be made from plant matter now, correct? |
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NuclearDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 03:53 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. True, which is why I specified with petrodiesel |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-28-11 06:37 AM Response to Reply #1 |
26. You can run a diesel on 100% biofuel. What's the alternative to petro for a gasser? n/t |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
3. I'm sure they will build something similar - and so will Ford. |
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GSLevel9 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 03:42 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. I hope so... |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 07:02 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. 70mpg @ $15K USD + incentives = SOLD! |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 08:54 PM Response to Reply #7 |
20. 15K is too expensive. You need to make it for 10K |
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NuclearDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 10:20 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. 10K? |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-28-11 11:49 AM Response to Reply #21 |
30. People have a strange idea of car prices sometimes |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 04:35 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. "Median new car price" is priced way out of the average American's range |
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Marblehead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
4. 2 words |
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taught_me_patience (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
8. No thanks. |
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GSLevel9 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 03:49 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. I'd normally agree BUT |
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thereismore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:02 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. This is not your grandpa's diesel, I guarantee you. nt |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-28-11 07:24 AM Response to Reply #8 |
28. For quite a few years now, European diesel cars have been nothing like... |
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taught_me_patience (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 12:38 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. You do know that Europeans pay more taxes for diesel |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 04:26 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Europeans pay more taxes for all transportation fuels because: |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
14. Why don't you call Volkswagen AG and demand they sell it here |
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GSLevel9 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 06:53 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. demand for the Volt is miniscule. nt |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-28-11 05:41 AM Response to Reply #15 |
23. Ermm.. no it isn't. Hence the months long wait list and the multiple EVs due to be launched soon |
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GSLevel9 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-28-11 02:23 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. what are the production numbers? |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-28-11 02:51 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Uh the reason the first year's production was so low was lack of batteries |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
17. The Bluemotion Polo won Top Gear's race to Blackpool. |
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GSLevel9 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 08:42 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. nice, I'll google that later. |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-28-11 05:42 AM Response to Reply #17 |
24. EDIT - woops thought the Jag did but not so. Did have more range tho. NT |
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taterguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
18. Or just move to a central location where you won't have to drive much anyway |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-28-11 05:43 AM Response to Reply #18 |
25. And where you generally can't afford one because of how much you have to spend on housing nt |
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taterguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-28-11 07:08 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. I must live in the only city with reasonably priced housing that's conveniently located |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-28-11 07:24 AM Response to Original message |
29. What it's being driven on is worse than what's being driven |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
36. Save the Earth- Buy more stuff n/t |
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