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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:35 PM Original message |
Social Security fund slides into permanent deficit |
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Sal Minella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
1. Did the Koch boys just stand on a street corner somewhere |
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Angry Dragon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. +1000 |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
24. +2000 |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
25. +3000 |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
27. +4000 |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:14 PM Response to Reply #1 |
35. DING DING DING - We have a Winner Folks |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:33 PM Response to Reply #1 |
42. uh...where is this street corner? |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 07:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
56. Bingo! |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 07:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
59. And the usual suspects get 'first dibs.' nt |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 09:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
69. +5000! |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
2. If this is a problem why not just eliminate the cap? |
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Sal Minella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:40 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. I think they're all operating on the "Repeating a lie until it becomes |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:12 PM Response to Reply #7 |
33. That's exactly what they are doing. |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 10:00 PM Response to Reply #7 |
76. There's nothing in the OP that's a lie. |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. And lose a necessary lie so they can slash SS? |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:15 PM Response to Reply #2 |
37. Elimentate the Cap and Recind the Tax Cuts for Top 2% |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 09:05 PM Response to Reply #2 |
66. I say eliminate the cap and means test it. |
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Sherman A1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
3. Is this that stupid AP story? |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
4. It's not in deficit UNTIL the the trust funds are drained, if ever. |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
5. oh no, not again. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
6. What happened to the trust fund surplus? |
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Sal Minella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:41 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. The wingnuts noticed it's still there, and want it to go to Wall Street. |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:41 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. The trust fund is the surplus! |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:43 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. It's funny how we had a surplus during the Clinton years using the SS funds |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:39 PM Response to Reply #14 |
46. why is that funny? |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 09:07 PM Response to Reply #46 |
67. Because when it pays extra the budget can be in surplus but when it pays out it doesn't affect the |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
11. You're on a roll lately |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:45 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. I am freaking out at the reality of our situation |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:47 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. i think you're posting before you understand the situation |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:58 PM Response to Reply #18 |
26. What else is new? |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:10 PM Response to Reply #18 |
32. What is there to understand? If the surplus truly existed and we were drawing it down |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:14 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. well the rest of the government has a deficit --why aren't you freaking out about that? |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:38 PM Response to Reply #34 |
45. I am! Looking at all this is giving me anxiety. |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:56 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. then why the singular worry over the SS deficit? |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 06:01 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. because its the RW talking point of the day- again! |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 08:51 PM Response to Reply #50 |
64. Here is my post on the overall deficit. |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 06:56 PM Response to Reply #45 |
55. Wait, it doesn't make sense --you don't believe a single word anyone says to you here |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 08:38 PM Response to Reply #55 |
63. Excellent point! |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 08:58 PM Response to Reply #55 |
65. Because the numbers don't add up. |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-28-11 01:23 AM Response to Reply #65 |
77. if you cared so much about SS and the deficit then... |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-28-11 01:36 AM Response to Reply #77 |
78. I think illegal immigration and even some legal immigration drives down wages. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:09 PM Response to Reply #15 |
31. Why are you looking at right wing sources? There is |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:16 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. I believe the surplus was spent out from under us. |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:40 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. you "believe"? is this some sort of religious faith? |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 07:28 PM Response to Reply #39 |
60. The surplus was in the general fund. It has nothing |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 09:20 PM Response to Reply #60 |
70. During the Clinton years we had a surplus because we were taking in more SS taxes |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 09:49 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. Boy you just can't look at reality can you. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 09:52 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. The social security tax surplus goes into the general fund and the SS fund gets an IOU |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 09:57 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. BS. Treasury bonds are what SS invests in among other investments. The |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:46 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. The OP never met a right wing angle he didn't like. |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:16 PM Response to Reply #16 |
38. it's a "she". nt |
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neverforget (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:18 PM Response to Reply #11 |
41. you got that right |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 07:04 PM Response to Reply #11 |
58. It's almost like there's some sort of pattern here. n/t |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
13. They are reaching into their 2.5 trillion dollar surplus to pay benefits until 2037 |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:48 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. Except we spent it already. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:37 PM Response to Reply #19 |
44. you've been corrected on the facts many times & just keep on posting the bullshit |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:59 PM Response to Reply #19 |
52. That isn't true. |
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tortoise1956 (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 08:29 PM Response to Reply #52 |
62. Actually, that statement is correct... |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 06:18 PM Response to Reply #19 |
54. what do you think we spent it on? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
17. Well, no, it's just that it's going to start adding to the general fund's deficit |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:07 PM Response to Reply #17 |
30. Yeah we have to pay for it instead of using it as a cash cow. |
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whatchamacallit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:49 PM Response to Original message |
20. If the president said we need to start eating barbecued children |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:53 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. ... |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:01 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. *SPRAY* |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:35 PM Response to Reply #20 |
43. That is the damn truth right there. They'd post blue links to recipes, too. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 07:02 PM Response to Reply #20 |
57. they'd be saying, well, it's of course a terrible thing that we need to barbecue children, |
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pa28 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 08:18 PM Response to Reply #20 |
61. We'd need to have an adult conversation about which sauce to use. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 09:43 PM Response to Reply #20 |
71. Oh please. He advocated infant-consumption since the start of the primaries. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 09:51 PM Response to Reply #20 |
73. Think of the decreased carbon footprint! |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
22. That author Stephen Ohlemacher of the Associated Press |
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A-Schwarzenegger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
23. Somebody's sliding into something all right |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
29. OP is total RW bullshit, The cap must be lifted - but even if it is not, SS is solvent |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
36. That's it. |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
40. according to the republicans social security has been going under since it's inception |
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OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
48. Get A GRIP. There was a Person with Actuarial KNOWLEDGE |
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COLGATE4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
49. Pure, unadulterated RW bullshit. |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
51. I suggest you find different news sources |
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RedCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
68. Solvent out the wazoo. jail time mandatory for panic spreaders who knowingly do it. |
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