I am not a liberal, but I like the way Congressman Weiner talks.

Weiner laid down another classic a few minutes ago on O'Donnell. To quote, Weiner said something like "does the right of a person's fist end at my nose?" in reference to the Florida ruling on the Health Care law. Weiner in particular was referring to people that don't pay insurance but use hospitals and don't pay, forcing insured people to pay higher rates. Weiner's point was that if everyone got health care coverage, or at least 95% of people got coverage the leveraging would work such that everyone get affordable health care and no one group gets life holding the bag.

... and I think Weiner speaks some sense too.

and I agree with Weiner.

...because I think for-profit health care is greedy and unconscionable. Single-payer health care along the lines of a medicare for all system is the safety net we should be rolling out, not demands that more people pay insurance company profits for executives and shareholders. That model adds ZERO value to health care while skimming billions in profit for greedy asshats. Piss on that, and piss on health insurance ripoffs!

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I couldn't agree with you more.:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

Single payer's the only way to go.

I'm with you.

I must also applaud you.

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name makes me laugh. There. I said it. But he's number one on the husband list. This from the great granddaughter of Minerva Schlegelmilch.

And no, it's not because of the uninsured. The uninsured use half as much health care per capita as people with coverage.

I think Weiner, who I generally dig, is blowing smoke.

He is blowing smoke by conflating the idea of everyone (or close) being in the market with being in the pool.

It is kinda shameful, I have no doubt Anthony knows better. There is a chunk that is being passed around from the uninsured but we have bigger fish to fry and those cost will be absorbed in some fashion.
This a cop out of an issue. Damn near tort reformish, not that big a joke but misleading, for sure.

like Medicare For All and those people were not allowed a seat at the table when health care was being debated and some of them were even arrested. So there was never any intent by Congress to do something that would actually work and would not be liable for judgements just as the one that just happened.

Uncompensated care accounts for only about 3% of overall health care costs, and 2/3rds of that comes from INSURED people.

Like Hello_Kitty said, the uninsured use less health care overall, which drives down costs.

The people who are forcing your insurance rates up are all of the greedy middle men who want their increasingly large cut of every transaction. Just wait until our health care system becomes fully financialized. I already know two very smart med school students who are planning to skip private practice and go straight to work on Wall Street. They're about to use that same magic they used on the housing market and the retail sector.

recced for the discussion, though.

and thanks for posting.