Turned on the tv and heard Contessa Brewer say...

That there was a demonstration in support of Mubarak. So it's not all one sided.

Click.

Back to Al Jazeera.

go figure.

but he just looked into the camera and the world just seemed a little bit nicer.

:spray:

You bastard! The people around me at work are now wondering why I'm laughing.

Oddly, I feel better already.

pressed by the reporter he really couldn't point out when and where these took place.

Goes with the MSM territory.

She put her arms in the air and was yelling that "Mubarak is right". The demonstrators just stood around quietly watching her spinning and yelling.

It was just a short report on Al Jazeera. Probably a repeat from earlier as it was still day time.

The Koch brothers?

"She" was covered from head to toe so you never know.

This woman is most likely middle class.

She probably has a good government job (In autocracies those are damn good and means you are deeply connected to the regime... yes somebody knows somebody who knows somebody)... and Mubarak going away she may lose it in the coming fun. Yes there are always losers in this too.

So she has a self interest in him, or at the very least, the regime staying.

Where am I getting this? I still remember a BBC interview with a woman, in her forties, back in the USSR... who actually was protesting for the regime... a few days before the fall.... yes it was here and five others against millions. That is what they feared... that the changes would lead to a disaster for them. Short term, it did.

No, not the koch brothers... Jesus you really believe that there are not a few people who NOW wish for the order of nine days ago?

Social dynamics and revolutions are always fascinating, and much safer to watch at distance.

Please do your finger wagging in another thread. Preferably your own.

Some people have managed to do very well under his rule. Although a lot of them have apparently already fled the country.

From what I've seen, however, it was a very, very small demonstration.

Or in Zurich?

Maybe the protest was somewhere on the Côte d'Azur.


Can't see the top one percent of Egyptian society in the streets of Cairo.

or otherwise closely tied to the regime... who are middle class or best case upper middle class, and are afraid of losing all. They will be the losers in the coming days.

And I watched MSNBC and they did not make a false equivalency claim. They said... there is a small pro mubarak demonstration. That is a statement of fact. They showed it... very small.

So if you compare that fistful to Tahir square, there is no equivalency made, just a statement of fact.

Problem is since our media has made those statements regarding speech in the US... we are a little sensitive to that. In this case, over sensitive. What is also going with the American media is that like most americans they have no clue at what they are watching. I have a clue as to the dynamics... there is a script somewhere, but not to the details.

And this is part of the "script" and at some point you get supporters for (insert dictator here). Usually when you get there, it is near the end of the dynamic.

If this is the first revolution... I get it. But I am serious... there is kind of dynamic that while it has different elements at times, or even the order... it follows a very close dynamic in the days of revolution. What happens after is different... from country to country. But the I got supporters too, look at me... is a classic. And the press always covers them to.

Perhaps I saw a different report than you. The one I watched was on AJ about an hour or so ago. the one with the one woman who ran into a small group of anti Mubarak demonstrators.

she said that there were a few pro murbarak demonstrations. Which for the record, insert revolution here, insert leader here, it always happens.

Perhaps I am not shocked, or surprised or angry because I know this.

Given how there are massive numbers of people in the streets across Egypt, one or two small demonstrations of support for Mubarak are hardly worth her subjective observation.

And that's my point. Our msm can't seem to break away from their false equivalence mantra.

It's not a surprise that there are some who benefited from Mubarak's reign. It would be a surprise that they would come out and demonstrate.

Just as I was typing this reply, Al Jazeera reported again on that one woman I talked about earlier in the thread. The person who uploaded that video told Al Jazeera that shortly after she was chanting a busload of people arrived. Presumably to support Mubarak. Suspicious? I'll say.

lose a lot. That is a reality...

Or you think 100% of middle class egyptians are for this?

For the record that is where his shallow support is coming from.. where people have done well, but don't have the means to leave.

The entire point is her final comment which we obviously interpreted differently. So we're at an impasse.

Please take the last word if you wish. I'm standing pat.

A truly convincing counterweight to th 2 million in the streets of Cairo today, and the hundreds of thousands in the streets of Alexandria.