Do you agree with President Obama that Hosni Mubarak should remain in power until September?

And not run for President in the September elections.

where Muburak has time to hand over stuff in an orderly fashion. But he should not be President.

supports him. Obama today made it clear he supports Mubarak until September. Not good enough for the people of Egypt.

US has just asked Muburak to step aside.

(Sorry, I've been doing college visits with my son, and have been woefully out of touch.)

him staying in office until then. OR that the message was to step down (which some CNN guy was saying last night, I think)

They just said that the WH presser has been postponed, maybe 'til after Mubarak's statement?

That's the good/bad of the internet -- accurate stuff zooms around the world in seconds, inaccurate stuff zooms around the world in seconds.

"It is reported..." is standard Fox News modus operandi: "some people say..." .

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/sc-dc-0203-us-egypt-web-20110201,0,981825.story

Not even to be part of the transition!

in another "friendly" country.

Mubarak has made horrible decisions every step of the way.

he never has, why should he start now?

that Mubarak will not run net time, nothing about Obama's feeling he should remain in place until then.

God, I hope your info is wrong -- or is Mubarak the only one who just.doesn't. get.it?

Anyway, I voted NO!

way out. He'll try and get his "pick" into office and maybe even twiddle with the election. Nope, he should be toast and that right now!

A orderly handover of power will tend to reduce instablity in the region. But it is up to the Egyptian people.

him.

at this point.

Obama's emissary has told Mubarak to not run for President in the September elections.

And has not called upon him to resign from office at anytime before those elections.

What do you think that means?

I know what that means.

Mubarak knows.

The Egyptian masses know.

And I think you know.

So no "clever" sophistry or nit picking please.

But, what do you think, what's your opinion?

Do you think that President Obama should say he'd like to see Mubarak resign .... now?

I'm listening.

It's a reasonable request.

on edit, looking for right link

does--"some people say..." President Obama: Mubarek should stay until September?"

:eyes:

Sid

with something that might/might not have been said.

closed doors. Your OP is intellectually dishonest.

Breaking: U.S. envoy tells Hosni Mubarak to step aside
Los Angeles Times | Feb. 1, 2011 | 11:28 a.m.

A U.S. special envoy in Cairo told Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak that he needed to step aside and allow a new government to take shape without him but was rebuffed, according to Middle East experts who have discussed the matter with the Obama administration.

Frank Wisner, a former ambassador to Egypt who has good relations with the Mubarak regime, traveled to Cairo at President Obama's behest to talk to the Egyptian leader about the country's future.

Wisner delivered a direct message that Mubarak should not be part of the "transition" that the U.S. has called for, according to Middle East experts who spoke on condition of anonymity

http://www.latimes.com/

Let those folks over there decide if it's appropriate to have sudden or gradual transition.

they need a good interim in place so that Mubarak can step down and not plunge the country into chaos.

Whose bright idea was THAT?

obama has not said tha mubarek should remain in power until Sept.

Just wondering.

Sid

With that being said there should be guarantees that political dissidents will not be harmed and ful services (internet etc) restored.

But at the same time the true democratic voie of the people needs time to find its leaders and in doing so marginalize the radicals.

There is no point in replacing a secular dictatorship with a theocratic dictatorship.

I'm glad he's more diplomatic about it than, say, an online message board.

In all fairness, I am hoping these people have a handle on it. It's simple to coach from out here lol!

"President Obama today urged Mubarak, via a US envoy, to step down in the fall, reports the New York Times"

http://www.newser.com/story/111045/mubarak-to-address-egypt-may-not-run-again.html

2 paragraphs, apparently.

"Urging Mubarek not to run" is not the same as saying he should stay, not by a long shot--but by damn--you keep hurling those fastballs...

He did not ask Mubarak to step down now.

Mubarak was simply asked to not run against for President in the September elections.

Spin that as much as you want but the message is clear to the mass movement in Egypt, to progressives in the world and to Mubarak in Egypt.

Stay on until the September elections.

If President Obama wants Mubarak to resign from office now he will say that.

He hasn't.

Case closed.

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Sid

:thumbsup:

see post #28.

Sid

President Obama never said Mubarak should remain until September, and current reporting indicates the Administration is doing what it can to get get him to step down now.

I think they've thought about doing that.

And they clearly rejected that idea!

Why won't this administration take a stand in support of human rights and democracy in the middle east?

Why is it so reluctant to oppose dictatorships and repression?

Sid