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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 03:15 PM
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Breaking: U.S. envoy tells Hosni Mubarak to step aside (LA Times)
Breaking: U.S. envoy tells Hosni Mubarak to step aside
Los Angeles Times | Feb. 1, 2011 | 11:28 a.m.

A U.S. special envoy in Cairo told Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak that he needed to step aside and allow a new government to take shape without him but was rebuffed, according to Middle East experts who have discussed the matter with the Obama administration.

Frank Wisner, a former ambassador to Egypt who has good relations with the Mubarak regime, traveled to Cairo at President Obama's behest to talk to the Egyptian leader about the country's future.

Wisner delivered a direct message that Mubarak should not be part of the "transition" that the U.S. has called for, according to Middle East experts who spoke on condition of anonymity


http://www.latimes.com/



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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 03:16 PM
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1. KNR!~ Thank you President Obama!
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 03:28 PM
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2. Mixed signals?
Edited on Tue Feb-01-11 03:38 PM by WilliamPitt
Don't run again becomes don't stay. I think the message has been delivered loud and clear.

I think, despite all the shouting on DU, that Obama is handling this well. You don't bounce a 30-year dictator - without firing a shot - unless you use some subtle pressures. We tried it the other way getting rid of Hussein, and that worked out pretty poorly for all involved. Obama isn't going to end this, anyway; the Egyptian people (or the Army) will.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 03:34 PM
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4. It looks like they're using one of those decision making ladder dealies.
Maybe that will work out and in part because the Egyptian people have handled themselves like champs. I'm in awe of they way they've gone about this.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 03:36 PM
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6. Agreed. We seem to be the only nation directly engaging the Mubarak regime.
I also sense that Kerry may be having some influence over America's rapidly evolving foreign policy regarding Egypt.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 03:37 PM
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7. so do I.
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 03:32 PM
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3. Let's see what happens next...
...and what does "transition" mean? A dictator with a human face or concrete democratic and economic reforms?

I have a hard time believing that US policy wants the latter.

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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 03:36 PM
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5. US policy may not have a say.
El Baredei has an excellent international reputation, and this movement appears to be coalescing around him.

There may be a new sheriff in town ere long, whether the State Department likes it or not.

Too many cameras, bloggers and independent media outlets to pull a Mossadeq...I hope.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 03:40 PM
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9. Look at the trading partners to put the pressure on
EU and the US are the biggest exporting markets for Egyptian products. Italy has the largest share of the Egyptian export pie, accounting for 9% of the total volume. It is followed by the US, Spain, India, Syria, Germany and Saudi Arabia.

http://www.economywatch.com/world_economy/egypt/export-import.html
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 03:39 PM
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8. good news--I don't presume to tell Egypt what to do, but Mubarek must go. nt
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 03:53 PM
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10. Let's be Frank about the Wisner family-they're another shadow government dynasty loyal to TPTB
not US.

Frank Wisner Source Watch page
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Frank_Wisner
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 02:34 PM
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11. For those that haven't opened the Source Watch Frank Wisner link yet here is a kick
AIG vice chair, former Under Sect for Defense during Clinton admin, appointed to replace Pickering as US Ambassador to India, was Reagan/Bush Ambassador to Egypt 86-91, when first starting "State Department" career in 1961 spent quite a bit of time in Vietnam; his father Frank committed "suicide" in 1965 after a career in the CIA many times involving regime change via any and all available methods...


Frank Wisner Source Watch page
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Frank_Wisner

Whatever real messages were "delivered" by the operative Wisner to Hosni Mubarak (from Panetta's CIA and Hillary's State Department) have really had an "impact" today on real people that have "legitimate grievences" and have suffered for thirty years under an "acceptable" puppet of TPTB.

Kick.
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