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mahatmakanejeeves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 04:18 PM
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Cuccinelli says state may fund private militia
Source: Cavalier Daily

Despite DADT repeal, Attorney General suggests Virginia could avoid changes by declining federal funds for Guard

By Bethel Habte, Senior Writer on February 1, 2011

Despite the U.S. Congressional repeal of the military’s controversial “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy last month, Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli suggested that the state General Assembly could sidestep the policy by forfeiting federal funding for the Virginia National Guard. Such a maneuver would help establish a state-funded militia free from the new policy’s constraints.

“Congress, through its spending power, can condition the use of federal funds on the States’ acceptance of DADT,” Cuccinelli stated in an opinion released earlier this week. “Should the General Assembly wish to avoid the conditions attached to these funds, it can raise, equip and fund an independent Virginia militia entirely from state revenues.”
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Although Cuccinelli declined to answer {Del. Bill Janis, R-Henrico}’s precise inquiry, noting that federal regulations about DADT have not been released, he did go on to detail how the state could potentially manage to preserve the policy independent of federal funding.

“Regardless of what form those regulations take, the Constitution expressly reserves to the States the power to appoint officers to the state militias, and that includes the modern National Guard,” Cuccinelli stated.

Read more: http://www.cavalierdaily.com/2011/02/01/cuccinelli-says-state-may-fund-private-militia/



I swore I wouldn't post about him anymore, and then he goes and does this.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 04:21 PM
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1. Oh, good. Because being a bigot (or electing one) should be expensive. n/t
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 04:22 PM
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2. FFS...Cuccinelli needs to go away...
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 04:24 PM
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3. The Pentagon budget should be spent on the regular Army, not reserves and national guard
I think of the national guard as a club for guys to join to do some civil service. They could join the volunteer fire department and accomplish that too.
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 04:32 PM
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6. The Guard and the Reserves are in combat as we speak
they are an integral part of the military - the are equipped and trained to the same standard as the regular army and fight right along side them. My state has had National Guardsmen deploy continuously since 911.

Things have changed a lot since Viet Nam.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 08:26 PM
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15. The Guard is a gimmick to create more advocates for the Pentagon
More paid soldiers, more towns with a fort or an airbase to make money from, more suppliers, etc. I wish that disabled people or libraries had so many advocates.
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 10:27 PM
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17. They fight and die for their country
I don't call that a gimmick
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 04:49 PM
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10. No, we should do the opposite.
We should switch our armed forces to a national militia model such as Switzerland uses. Maintain a relatively small, highly trained elite force for day to day and emergency operations, while a much larger force operates on a National Guard type model for emergency call ups. The cost of our military would drop substantially if you didn't have to pay the continuous salaries and housing of hundreds of thousands of active troops. And if fighting a real, long-term war means pulling a hundred thousand or more Americans out of their daily lives, people would be less likely to support it.
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Lurks Often Donating Member (505 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 09:00 PM
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16. That concept did not work in WWI, WWII or Korea
all that idea led to was a lot more Americans losing their lives because they were rushed into combat under-trained. We entered all three of those wars grossly un-prepared.*

The idea that a draft or some other form of large scale call up of the American population for military service will somehow prevent or reduce the chances of the U.S. entering a conflict is not supported by history.

*I suspect and believe that also applied to Vietnam, although have read no evidence in books to date that allows me to confirm or deny my theory.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 05:03 PM
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14. Are you nuts? Who in the hell do you think is fighting over there in
Iraq and Afghanistan?
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 04:24 PM
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4. I'd love to hear how he expects to fund this...
Last I heard, VA isn't exactly awash with unspent cash!
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 04:24 PM
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5. +1...eom
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 04:33 PM
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7. Budget issues to dominate 2011 Va. General Assembly
By Kali Schumitz
Fairfax County Times
Friday, January 7, 2011; 12:19 AM

... Although state revenue is on the rise, there is not funding to restore most of the cuts made in recent years or money available for new initiatives ...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/07/AR2011010700179.html
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mahatmakanejeeves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 04:34 PM
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8. No problem; we'll sell the ABC stores.
The insignia will come from boxes of Cracker Jack, so they won't cost anything. They'll be worth every penny of that, too.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 04:36 PM
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9. Didn't they already try that?
Wasn't it called the "Army of Northern Virginia" or something like that? As Dr. Phil might say, "How's that workin' out for ya?" :eyes:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 04:53 PM
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11. Yes and the Feds should call back of gear
they want riffles they can buy them from the Russians... Tanks... full price, the T-80 ain't half bad, no Choppers for ya, enjoy some HInds.

Oh you mean that is EXPENSIVE? Oh boo fucking hoo
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 04:54 PM
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12. yea, the people will love paying more taxes for their private militia...what a dumbfuck
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 04:56 PM
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13. Yay... then everyone can turn in all their guns to THEM
since they would be a "well regulated militia" :rofl:
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