Senate repukes trying a backdoor repeal of health care reform

the Chinless Wonder has just offered an amendment to, of all things, the FAA reauthorization bill (S. 223), to repeal the "job-killing" provisons blah blah blah. How that can even be considered germane is beyond me. :eyes:

the States. Let each state do what they wish.

This is a plan for disaster.

that would be such a disaster? Not that I necessarily disagree, but some details would be nice for the sake of conversation.

Texas, for instance, is talking about bailing on Medicaid completely. :wtf:

However, for the sake of a purely academic argument isn't there some logic to the idea of testing out different ideas then benchmarking the successful methods? That is difficult to accomplish at an overarching national level but the argument of doing so at the state level seems valid. Assuming of course they don't just do away with the system altogether but instead try different methods of innovation. Which I think we all agree, is the real cause of fear in this discussion.

Sweden, Japan, Canada, France, Switzerland, Germany, Great Britain and others show us how to do it. They all have national health care systems that work. There may be some negatives in each system but overall they provide superior results at lower price. If we could have a sensible discussion (which it seems we cannot) we could put together a world class system.

but again for the sake of argument, aren't the cultural differences as well as economic and political systems and standards different enough to question the viability of those systems if implemented in the US? Adopting any of those for examples assumes we adopt some aspect of their cultural norms like eating and exercise habits to some degree as well. Not sure about where you live but I don't think our society is too keen on such changes. With that in mind, wouldn't we require a different solution?

We can't assume that we get to re-engineer society. We have to play the hand that's dealt us in that regard. Unless we are looking at a very long term plan that allows for social engineering. However, wouldn't that have to be implemented first?

it's an Obama program, therefore it is unacceptable. period. the senate minority leader mitch mcconnell said his goal was to see Obama have a one-term presidency. there is no benchmark for these people.

that for the sake of argument assumes the point made in an earlier post where the states were implementing their own systems instead and the subsequent discussion of how that would end up poorly for the people. The question isn't about benchmarking the methods put in place by the federal health care bill. For the purpose of this topic assume that bill went away or was never passed and the states continued trying their own systems.

that's Mr. Freeper Scum to you!

Party line vote, 47-51.

So now Mitch (and Boner) can get back to their hard work creating all those jobs for us. :sarcasm: