So whose side is the US right wing on in Egypt?

On the one hand they claim it to be a direct result of Bush and his Iraq invasion. On the other hand you have Fox claiming that Obama has lost Egypt, Rush cheering the detaining of journalists etc. etc. What gives?

They despised Saddam because he was fighting back against the right's corporate interests, so he had to go.

to be anything other than the disgusting dictator that he was. I didn't and don't support our adventure in Iraq but am not sorry at all that scum is burning in hell.

The RW had their reasons for wanting Saddam to remain in power... I would have much rather seen him stay in power until there was a clear way forward. That's not even close to saying he's anything but a horrific despot, and it's not praise for him by any stretch. The evil bastard kept a secular government, and kept the lid on things for a long time. I would have much rather his trip to hell was delayed by whatever time necessary to ensure the mess we have now never happened.

They're burning the candle at both ends to see which side is brighter, then they will go with that.

but all they really care about is beating obama in 2012. so they're probably trying to figure that out. assholes.

What one winger wrote to me today:

"Oh yes,(he says sarcastically) The Muslim brotherhood reigning over Egypt, sounds great. Jeezus beJeezus."

I told him that the Muslim Brotherhood would likely NOT take control. He replied:

"The prize doesn't go to the most but to the most rabid and commited. Nazi germany had a Nazi minority, so did Comunism, Like in sports, In those places it's "who wants it more!"
Who'd expect Hamas to win Palestinian elections?
Yeah, I'd prefer Muslim fanatics to not have Democracy, if they have ANY chance of taking control.
"cause democracy would last about as long as it did in Germany and Russia. Read DeTocqueville and the founding fathers as to what's required to have a just democracy. And ours was imperfect requiring a bloody Civil War. It was set up with ...so many checks on power to hold back the scoundrels and the true believers.

And STILL some people say we suck!"

The Right Wing doesn't believe in Democracy for anyone except themselves.

You know, because they love freedom,and all.

when some of their talking heads jumped at the chance to credit Bush with 'transforming the region'. They dropped that line quick when they realized it was one of "our" dictators being deposed.

So difficult, sometimes, to tell where the money might land, and you never want to bet wrong on that. Mubarak has been a steady, stable despot for many years. Sentimentality and loyalty don't play into things when one of your most cherished mottoes is "What have you done for me lately?" But still, Mubarak had a certain dependability to him.

And while the majority of Americans could give a tin shit about it, Mubarak has been of some value when it comes to certain services pertaining to prisoners and their maltreatment. Parts of the rest of the world have a nasty preoccupation with extraordinary rendition and torture, and some records from the Mubarak regime, should it terminate suddenly, could be very inconvenient.

Egypt is an oil producing country, on some scale.

They are on the side of whomever will sell us oil for a great price.

There is some oil production in the Gulf of Suez, but production had been declining while domestic Egyptian consumption had been increasing. Egypt is now a net importer of oil because domestic production is about 75% of their needs.

Freedoms are for Jesus-lovin folks! Those brown/muslin folks aren't equipped to handle it. As long as someone is there to protect our oil that's under their soil, we don't care who takes over.

http://www.thenation.com/blog/158237/egypt-leaves-right-crazed-and-confused

The uprising against Hosni Mubarak in Egypt has left the US right wing confused and grasping for talking points: Unlike most political events, the crisis in Egypt can’t be neatly hung on one of their us-versus-them frames. Not knowing what side to take, unable to easily tell the good guys from the bad, they’ve been suddenly thrown from the comfort of certitude into a slush of self-doubt.

During Iran’s Green Revolution, less than two years ago, Republicans were livid that Obama wouldn’t intervene on the demonstrators’ behalf to overthrow the Iranian government (even to the point of demanding military action, though anybody with any sense realized that an incursion would have united all Iranians against the United States). Their line back then was 110 percent pro-democracy: "In the cause of freedom America cannot be neutral," Rep. Mike Pence essayed. Obama was a "cream puff," said Rep. Dana Rohrabacher; he’s “timid,” added old “Bomb-bomb-bomb, bomb-bomb Iran” John McCain. Charles Krauthammer was boiling over: “The president is taking a hands-off attitude instead of standing, as Reagan did in the Polish uprising of 1980, and say we stand with the people in the street who believe in democracy.... it is a disgrace that the United States is not stating it as simply and honestly as that.”

Today? The GOP is all over the map: Krauthammer is griping that Obama has stated his support for the people too honestly. “It looks as if it was our decision, our pressure, and I’m not sure that we want a direct connection between our President and Egypt.” Not a word on Egypt from Pence or Rohrabacher; McCain, along with speaker John Boehner and minority leader Mitch McConnell, has decided to go along with Obama’s cautious approach.

The most intriguing confusion, though, must be that addling the Tea Party crowd, for whom Muslims are generally a very dangerous “them.” And yet some TPers can’t help but identify with these Muslim protesters, filling Tahrir Square like so many anti-tax rebels tail-gating for Glenn Beck on the Mall. On Fox News a few days ago, a middle-aged man at a tea party gathering in Chicago cheerfully asserted, “We need to do what they’re doing in Egypt!”

http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/02/03/mubarak_american_allies/slideshow.html


RALPH REED

Like a bad fucking dream he just keeps coming back. And I'll forever think of the movie The Omen when I see that smiling shit.

Nobody ever saw this one coming. :sarcasm:

Any leader, ideology, or group that exploits their citizens, especially those who are poor and in poverty, and whose toil in slave-labor enables capitalists to hugely profit as a result, that is/they are whom the rightwing supports, directly or indirectly.

The greedy Judeo-Christian rightwing worships only power and money, despite their false claims of being more religiously pious, generous, charitable, and morally superior to everyone else. Conservative Christians and Jews tolerate each other, mostly due to both having the identical goals of being or becoming more rich and powerful, and their intent is to exploit, remove, eliminate, or subdue those who would dare to pose any "threat" to their goals.