America, this is NOT a meal! (pic)

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Is it a "meal" so to speak? Yeah, kind of. Food Not Bombs could probably, no, definitely do it better.

We don't educate our citizens in any way about nutrition.

It's a lot funnier if you take a quick glance and the bold print and the pictures.

After all, the sandwich is what makes that amalgamation a meal. Not the chips and soda.

And this irritates me, as well. But then this is considered a meal, too... :wow:

But I've been with someone who has. He seemed to like it and I didn't say a thing... :D

Is he a fat lazy pig? I've read more than a few posts insinuating that anyone who would eat something like that MUST be a fat lazy pig. I'm not a fat lazy pig, but then again I might eat at KFC once every other full moon, and it's either to have one of their chicken pot pies or that wonderful double down thingy.

Though I've read the same thing, which was why I was so shocked when he ordered one... :wow: But this is just the new incarnation of foodstuffs for folks to be all indignant about. A few years back, it was those KFC Bowls that folks were horrified about. I read about those on DU and thought they sounded pretty good... I've since had those, every sixth full moon, or so, and I'm still around to tell the tale. :D We can only imagine what they'll come up with us for us to get upset about next... :scared: :hi:

to have one only once in a great while, and make sure I keep exercising.

I also like the Poutine that the Canadian KFC's serve. ;)

But if I do have fast food, and want something other than pizza, that's probably my choice. KFC is the only fast food place that offers mashed potatoes and I'm not big on fries... :)

The thing is, I first saw the KFC bowl right here on DU, on a thread that was horrified by the ingredients. I admit that it sounded good to me and I wanted to try it. :blush: But they've since topped themselves with the bacon and cheese sandwich that uses breaded chicken instead of the bread... Yikes! :crazy:

What's Poutine? :shrug: :hi:

and I'm all over it.

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It lowers the carb count. It's a good FF choice for those of us avoiding sugars.

Is something done in a convection oven with some kind of grill imprints marked on it, blech! KFC is the nastiest of all fast food.

And yes, it makes a difference.

The KFC Double Down with fried chicken in it has 540 calories, 32 grams fat and 1380 mg sodium.
The same thing but with grilled chicken has 460 calories, 23 grams fat and 1430 mg sodium.

Now!

Carls Jr's fish sandwich? 680 calories, 37g fat, 1260 mg sodium

The Original Six Dollar Burger? 900 calories, 54g fat, 2000 mg sodium

A Whopper has 670 calories, 39g fat, 1020 mg sodium

Big Macs have 704 calories, 43.7g fat and 1148 mg sodium.

A Taco Supreme from Taco Bell has 200 calories, 12g fat and 350 mg sodium. Since the combo meal comes with three of them, you're looking at 600 calories, 36g fat and 1050 mg sodium.

The new All American Jack burger from Jack in the Box contains 838 calories, 56g fat and 1506 mg sodium.

How about Subway, the place that got rich by telling America they could eat their food without guilt? The footlong Spicy Italian boasts 1040 calories, 56g fat and 3660 mg sodium. Even the low fat varieties aren't great...the footlong Oven Roasted Chicken packs 640 calories, 9g fat and 1490 mg sodium.

It's surprising, somehow, when you go looking at the nutritional information for gut buster fast food and find out the poster child for gilded excess, the Double Down from KFC, is the least bad option.

You choose a couple of bad ones, cold cuts are always so high in sodium.

My vegan daughter loves the veggie sandwiches, here in L.A. you can get them with avocado slices instead of cheese but she's in DC now and bummed they don't have that option!

If you get a 6 inch and hold the cheese, mayo, and saltier meats, load up on the veggies, Subway isn't bad at all. The 6" veggie delight only has like 230 calories, I can't imagine eating 2 of them! A footlong sandwich is 2 meals for most people. Maybe if you're a big guy or super tall person or very active.

It's in their "low fat" menu. And it's not even the worst one on there--the Sweet Onion Chicken Teriyaki is 120 calories worse.

But seriously, guys, the infamous Double Down looks almost reasonable compared to a burger.

Chicken as bread? Seriously? I'm not with that....KFC is my least favorite of all the fast food places, I've never had anything there I liked and "grilled" chicken is not grilled but cooked in the oven with some kind of irons on it. Oddly, beef is an ingredient in the chicken! What is up with that.

I think the best fast food chicken is Pollo Loco, and it really IS grilled. Like on a grill.

http://www.subway.com/applications/NutritionInfo/nutritionlist.aspx?id=sandwich

They're all under 400 cals and under 5 grams of fat. WAAAAY better than the fried chicken-bread sandwich!

http://www.kfc.com/nutrition/

According to KFC the double-down as pictured above it's 680 calories and almost 2000 grams of sodium, 37 grams of fat....37 GRAMS OF FAT!

The lesson is to read the info -- eat it if you want to but know what you are doing. No way are those two even close!

The "6 grams of fat or less" menu is all under 400 cals and all under 6g fat...if you do not put cheese on the sandwich. With cheese--how Subway sandwiches are usually sold--it's higher because cheese is basically pure fat.

The sandwich I listed is from the "low fat footlong."

As for the Double Down...from your link, 610 calories rather than 680. In reality no two Double Downs are the same because the chicken filets they make them from are different sizes.

But that double down thing you would be better to hold the whole thing -- 37 grams of fat, and what do you want to bet 90% of the people who order it get some lardy side and a vat of soda with it too!

Our saving grace is the nutritional info but it doesn't help unless you read it. A "footlong" sandwich is really like 2 sandwiches, I can't see eating a footlong sandwich and then going back to work! URRRP!

Just reading the descriptions of some of Subway's sandwiches makes me cringe. In the meantime, I usually get a foot-long tuna fish sandwich, no cheese, not toasted, with lettuce, tomato, & cucumber, sometimes with avocado, & that's it. No dressing, as there's tons of mayo in the tuna already.

So yeah, you can order the "bad" stuff, but it's your choice. I like that they break down their sandwiches & tell you what the fat & calorie counts are.

dg

Tuna costs way more than mayo, and this dictates "recipe" of Subway and pretty much any other chain restaurant. I do know a ma and pa coffee shop that makes a delicious tuna sandwich with tons of celery, onion, fresh herbs and just enough mayo to moisten up the mix. But that is def the exception not the rule.

I worked in a sub shop years ago and remember those GIANT plastic containers filled with the cheapest mayo, the yellow oil in it would come up the top and the manager would just stir it back up, it made me gag! They def tried to get away with as little tuna as possible.

I really don't think any of these choices are all that bad as long as it's not your regular diet. I also like McDonald's fish sandwich, about the only other fast food I really do like, but I can't remember the last time that I had one... :shrug: :)

Messy, but possible. I think you can shave at least 170-230 calories (judging by what a normal serving of bread has vs their bigger buns) off of their sammiches by using the bun as a holder and tearing pieces of it off before consuming. That's how I can eat there while in the first two months of my fitness plan. Oh, and don't get cheese or mayo on the sandwich either.

Your dressing choices are the sandwich sauce choices. None of which is good but the yellow mustard is probably the least-bad. If you stick to the veggies and lose the meat and cheese, it's downright healthy even.

in salad form -- actually if you stay with the 6" and stay away from the mayo, cheesey, saucy stuff, the bread won't kill you. But if I already had bread of cereal for breakfast I would prob get the salad.

I love that sloppy nightmare and I have no idea why.

ordered it ..no cheese no bacon no sauce

and sliced it onto 2 homemade salads, served it with 2 unsweetened iced teas.. fed me & hubby pretty cheap..

and cured the KFC craving I get every 4 or 5 years :P

Kudos to you for innovation! :think: :hi:

LOL!

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Amazing to think that 100 years ago probably most people lived and died without ever tasting a soda. Now no "meal" is complete without at least 20 oz of carbonated chemicals, high fructose corn syrup and/or aspertame, food color and God knows what else. My dentist said even diet soda will do your teeth in with the high acid content.

Don't even get me started about these people who put it in baby bottles for toddlers! Arrgh!

My very good friend is 150 lbs overweight and always walking around with GIANT cups of Dr. Pepper from the convenience store....I don't even know how many ounces, it looks like a quart, at least. He has all these health issues and finally decided to get weight loss surgery. He was completely devestated at the orientation to find out he couldn't have soda after the surgery. Not any kind, including diet, it would cause digestive issues. I just can't believe how hooked on this stuff people get, it's like alcoholism, sodaholism!

I don't even think it's that good, it's like advertising psy-ops, we've all seen about 50 million soda ads by age 12 or so and people just start thinking it's a food group or something.

Not to mention all those soda conglomerates give $$ to Republicans! IT'S THE LIQUID SATAN!

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yum

Don't like it, don't buy it.

Ever? Really?

I'm a healthy-eatin' vegan and even I've made lunches or even occasional quick dinners out of something like that at a Subway.

They have baked chips and apple slices... plus a six inch turkey sub and a diet coke? When I lost 100 lbs, that would be one of my meal choices at times. Even with the bread.

You can choose to eat healthy at almost any fast food place. The food is higher in sodium than if you were cooking at home, but there are decent choices to make.

Lean turkey. Whole wheat bread. Veggie toppings (Subway has lots). Baked chips (I don't much like these, but they're marginally better for you). Unsweetened iced tea or plain water, if available.

It's not the best meal in the world, but it's not the worst, either.

Is really pretty strange, this whole "supersize me!" mentality -- the OP is right to observe that adding chips and soda to a sandwich does not "make it a meal" it is just adding empty calories, sugar and sodium to the meal.

a sandwich and water is a more healthy meal, or a sandwich and fruit or a salad. I totally get where the OP is coming from.

Of course everyone has had sandwich, chips, soda but as a society we are making ourselves so sick with the way we eat, it's a good idea to pay attention to the messages we are getting constantly and think a little more about the choices we make.

and I just do not see the issue with this. "Make it a meal" refers to the deal you get when you buy the three products together and pay less than you would for each separately. And I generally get an unsweetened iced tea with my footlong all-veggie/no cheese sandwich.

On a more abstract level the sandwich wouldn't be a lunch for me -- add in chips and a drink and it's a "meal", inasmuch as it satisfies my appetite and desire for "crunch" along with some liquid refreshment. And honestly, calories aren't an issue in themselves -- even if I do add a Coke and a small bag of Lay's I'm going to each a shitload fewer calories over the course of a day than most people AND I'm going to maintain enough physical activity to burn them off. :shrug: A "meal" at Subway isn't going to kill anybody, and it's a damned sight healthier than other fast-food alternatives.

You are speaking from the perspective of somebody who as a vegan obviously gives a lot of thought to what you eat.

American society as a whole is programmed to have fries and chips and coke or beer every time they eat anything. My sister is like that and it drives me nuts, that's why that OP pushed so many buttons with me. She is either eating at one of those places like Chilis, or replicating that kind of meal at home. She is 100+ pounds overweight, middle aged with all the usual problems in regard to her weight (joint problems, blood pressure, etc.)

I'm certainly not the most perfect eater, don't get me wrong, but it just makes me sad to see so many people wrecking themselves with these "meals" (not to mention snacks) as a daily lifestyle. I think even more than smoking or alcohol fast food type meals wreck havoc with public health more than anything.

and didn't exercise, you'd die about 5 years younger than if you'd never eaten such a thing.

I shouldn't say much of anything though, before I became a vegetarian I used to eat at Checkers daily. 5 years later, I still have dangerous range cholesterol and BP and I'm nearly a vegan. It probably would have been healthier to stow radioactive isotopes in my underwear.

GIVE ME!

Maybe about how our food is killing us?

who cares when you can save a whole $0.15 off the regular price of that junk-food and sugar water.

Is this on my part: :sarcasm:? Misanthrope? (you decide)

indeed. k 'n r.

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