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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 03:25 AM
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Just in case someone has not seen this interview of Wael Ghonim
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2011/feb/08/egypt-activist-wael-ghonim-google-video

I did not see it until just now and thought some others may not have seen it.

It is incredibly moving. These young Egyptians have such excellent character. The pictures of the young men who were killed are devastating. What wonderful children. I extend my deepest sympathies to their families. What a terrible loss for Egypt.

Is Egypt ready for democracy? These young people certainly are and they have proved it. Obama, this is one chance you have to move the world toward something better. Take it. Do the right thing. Support the immediate transfer of power to a committee that is totally pledged to take the country to democracy. The Egyptian youth have won the right to live in a country that has a government of the people, for the people and by the people. Nothing less will do.
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 10:15 AM
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1. a quote from Wael
Edited on Wed Feb-09-11 10:20 AM by yodermon
(i'm sure the whole text is online somewhere, but: )

Wael: We are not traitors.. we love Egypt.. We are not working with anyone with a set agenda! Some of us are very rich.. we live in great homes and drive great cars. I don't need anything from anyone! and I never wanted anything from anyone, everything that was done always endangered all of our lives, danger which we knew no end to. We don't know. We're just working. We said we'll fight for our rights and for our country! This is our Country!
Every single one of us who was at risk wasn't doing this for a personal agenda, the people who moved and the people who planned they don't want anything! I don't want anything!
...
The hero is everyone of us. There isn't one of us here that is on some high horse leading the masses.
...
If i was a traitor i would have stayed by the swimming pool in my house in the UAE, and enjoy my life, get paid, get raises, what's the problem? Should I say what others are saying? Let it burn! Is it our country? It's theirs! That's what I'd say if I was a traitor! We're not traitors!


on edit.. found transcript.. http://shorttext.com/5ji3p2rucu3
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 01:38 PM
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3. I woke up this morning thinking that
Wael Gholim was, in a sense, tortured. He points out that his body does not bear the marks of torture. But I have met with people who were in prison in our country. I have talked to a number of them. Those I have met with who were in very unusual emotional states were, I suspect, mentally unbalanced to begin with.

Wael Gholim's extremely vulnerable state, the emotionality that was so close to the surface with him, cannot be his pre-detainment state. He is a manager of a company. It is not possible that a person with emotions that raw could manage a company like Google in the Middle East.

Therefore, I would have to conclude, based on that interview, that Wael Gholim was emotionally, if not physically, abused to the point that he suffered emotional or psychological damage. I am not a psychologist or a psychiatrist, so this is not a diagnosis of some kind. It is just an observation based on my subjective comparison of his statement with statements that I have heard from others in similar situations.

The interviewer pointed out that he had not eaten or had much to drink since his release from prison, but still, I suspect that interrogation techniques just short of physical torture may have been used on him. He states that he did not sleep. I suspect that he was asked the same questions over and over and over. I suspect this based on the fact that he seems to be answering the same questions over and over in the interview.

Those DUers who pray will, I hope, pray for Wael Gholim and all those who have had to suffer arrests in Egypt.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 10:55 AM
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2. I just watched the entire thing for the first time. Thank you so much, I will never forget that.
Never. These people love their country beyond their own personal convenience. They love their country as much as anyone ever loved anything and the sacrifices they suffer make earthquakes in the thoughts of everyone in the region, everyone in the world, about how much we can really make a change.

PB
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