GOP Rep. Cassidy: Medicaid Patients Have Worse Outcomes Than Those With No Insurance

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SNIP - GOP LA Rep. Bill Cassidy can't explain why, but made the claim on C-SPAN's Washington Journal that those on Medicaid have worse outcomes than those with no insurance at all.

How do you know a GOPer is lying? Their lips are moving!

:wtf:

Or is that just the natural state of mind for most Republicans?

"making shit up."

but it is probably a very complex issue that doesn't just boil down to simple stats and facts.

Every state administers their version of Medicaid differently. Here, you must have a minor child or be disabled to obtain Medicaid. And not all the services authorized for kids are available to the parent(s). One fifth of our state's population gets Medicaid. The two covered groups are single parents with kids and "disabled". Disabled includes a LOT of people in methadone treatment (Maine has the highest rate of people in addiction treatment in the country) and mental health clients.

So we have large groups of people who may be non-compliant with treatment, either through choice or through situations. Many of the Medicaid patients have no transportation and, excepting about 5 communities in the entire state, there is no public transportation here. Getting to appointments, getting meds, etc can all be very difficult for many.

In many parts of our state, it is also hard to find a primary care office that will accept Medicaid. In many cases, the difficulties of finding a provider, getting to appointments, and the wait times to get one make people blow it off until they are so sick that they want immediate care, resulting in them heading to the ED as their primary care source (a HUGE problem here). So many are sicker when they do show up somewhere for treatment, which could also contribute to worse outcomes.

what a mess this country has become.

not all medical care providers accept it so the quality of their care may be lower than someone with Cadillac insurance coverage. However, what she didn't say is that the ordinary health insurance holder has the same problem and even worse because of deductibles and co-pays.

:wow: I'm shocked that he is a Teabagger fave.

Sick.

Republicans are no longer the party of Ike, Rockefeller, Margaret Chase Smith,
and even Goldwater they know that they control the media and they can
lie w/ impunity because the rich and powerful people who are their real clients
will have their backs.

that is their true calling.

Medicaid is not insurance, so what the Hell is she talking about..

You present your Medicaid card to the health care provider so they can collect for the services same as you would if you had Blue Cross. Also a lot of states have privatized their Medicaid programs. They pay a company a capitated rate to adminster the benefits.

that Canadians are coming here for our health care, one of the biggest and oldest astroturf lies spread out there. This is another one. It's been out there for a long time. These creeps are allowed to say these things in public without being challenged by the so-called journalists out there to prove their statements.

It didn't used to be as bad as it is now.

I live in a border state. When I worked in a regular hospital we'd see it once in a while. In a few instances it was because that particular place was exceptionally good at some unique things, but other times it had nothing to do with that. Aside from birthing opiate-addicted babies (we were exceptionally good at that), I'd say we'd only see Canadians a few times a year excepting those in car accidents while they were visiting here and such.

care the Canadians saw here was when they got into accidents and needed some trauma care here.

I'm a 50-year old Canadian and I've never even HEARD of a Canadian going down to America for health care.

Except for those who are filthy rich who want to pay a premium for *immediate* health care or more luxurious facilities - more often NOT with a recommendation from their doctor.

We ordinary Canadians just can't afford to pay out of pocket for the travel, overpriced hospitals and drugs.

We like our system just fine. We can walk into any hospital, get treated and walk back out without ONCE looking for a credit card or going to a bank for a second mortgage.

people ages 18-64 with no other health issues that prevent work do not receive medicaid.
children under 18 and mentally challenged/mentally ill/ physically challenged are generally on Medicaid,as well as impoverished people over 65.

nt.

It's income based and, as we all know, millions of Americans earn wages low enough to qualify. And poor people tend to be unhealthier than their wealthier counterparts.

many states don't give Medicaid to 18-64 year olds unless their permanently disabled.

My state, Arizona if you can believe it, has one of the more generous Medicaid programs in the country. A voter initiative set eligibility at 100% Federal poverty level.

I could see where uninsured people might fare better medically because they're likely to be younger and healthier, for instance.

Until near death to bend their ego and obtain medical help.

Woman are more often in the position of having to see doctors for issues relating to reproduction, i.e. childbirth and contraception.

i was denied insurance for 15 years but was not sick enough to qualify for any disability, yes, i had to pay for my own care, and yes i survived...this is probably what happens most of the time...the folks i know on medicaid who qualify in their 20s and 30s, the years when i was denied care, have to have absolutely devastating illnesses, sometimes including multiple mental illness on top of their physical issues, to get medicaid

it is really VERY hard to qualify for medicaid

so, yes, those folks who qualify tend to be folks who are very, very sick and/or very, very mentally ill/addicted (which makes it more challenging for them to follow their medical plan)

yes, their outcomes are often bad, but their outcomes would be even WORSE if they didn't have care

this is a classic example of how to lie by not giving all the facts -- he "can't" explain why because if he did explain why, it would make him look like the asshole he so clearly already is