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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 12:53 PM
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Q: WHEN will Americans take to the streets en masse?
A: Probably when life gets so uncomfortable (and undemocratic) for them that they no longer have the alternative luxury of lazing around the computer all day, complaining as loudly as their brave little fingers can type.

THAT'S when.
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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 12:58 PM
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1. When 'Dancing with the Stars' is pre-empted
And not a moment before. Priorities.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 01:10 PM
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11. Nonsense. Only a cancellation of the NFL season would come close.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 01:57 PM
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25. That will never happen because the powers behind
the power know that those distractions like football et. al. keep people from questioning their actions too closely.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 02:13 PM
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33. Actually, it's about 50-50 that it happens this year.
Right now an owners' lockout is considered almost certain, with at least the first weeks of next season very likely to be missed.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 12:58 PM
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2. Check TV Guide. nt
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 12:58 PM
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3. We did back when Bush was sounding the war drums
to invade Iraq. We were herded into free speech zones so that our elected leaders wouldn't see us. Some of our more vocal activists were harassed and even arrested. None of the MSM media covered the mass demonstrations across the country and instead covered rallies by the pro-war crowd. Remember the pictures of the more porta potties than demonstrators in their camp. Buts mostly the media covered stories about missing debutantes and coeds 24/7. We were called hippies, communists and unAmerican. We were totally ignored and business went on as usual and now we are in two endless wars.
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 01:14 PM
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12. The reason it wasn't covered is because the fascist right wing corporately controlled
media calls the shots. (pun intended) Maybe we need to march on US news media headquarters and demand they cover our rallies the same way they cover the TEA BAGGERS. At the same time we are doing that we could demand coverage of our simultaneous march on Washington to demand the Supreme Court recuse themselves from political activity and consider impeachment of Thomas and Scalia. That would be among all of the other grievances WE THE PEOPLE have the right to demand the government address.

People, if we don't demand our rights we will totally lose them forever! I am willing to give up American Ideology, Dancing with Scars and The Biggest Financial Losers in History reality shows!
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 01:51 PM
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21. I couldn't agree with you more. Maybe our target was
wrong. Go after the corporate media first and demand that they do fair and balanced coverage of our righteous demands for real democracy for the people of the USA not the corporations. I wonder if their elected puppets might call the military on us? It would be interesting to find out.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 12:59 PM
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4. To what end?
What would be the goal of taking to the streets en masse? Overthrow our government? And then what?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 01:02 PM
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5. You want to overthrow Barack Obama?
Why?

Do you think our Army could take over and do a better job?

The Tea Party is right there with ya....tell you that!

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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 01:54 PM
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22. No one wants to overthrow BHO. We want
Congress to listen to us and we want certain criminal justices on the Supreme Court impeached. It won't happen until we the people frankly scare them into doing the right thing.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 01:03 PM
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6. Never. You can't even get them to go to the polls and vote.
If they did that in enough numbers, the question wouldn't arise.
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Newest Reality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 01:04 PM
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7. Gee, I thought it would be when
people who are struggling in large numbers just to get through each day and survive from paycheck to paycheck found some relief and had any time to be concerned or act.

What might also bring the masses in the US out is if, by some stroke of fate, the television satellites all went out and, simultaneously, the supply of psychotropic drugs from Big Pharma where suddenly cut-off. Many people can only cope with an insane world via chemical intervention and copious amounts of entertainment and distraction.

When you peel the mask off, it is rather disgusting and nauseatingly ugly. The country of Dorian Gray.
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 01:27 PM
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14. Yes. The USA has changed for the worse. Our leaders torture, ignore corporate crime
and have taken away all of our rights except the second amendment. When we exercise our first amendment rights our words are ignored.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 01:29 PM
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16. "the supply of psychotropic drugs"
As we all know those medicines have no legitimate use.

:eyes:
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 01:05 PM
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8. Oh come on. I'm tired of hearing that tired, old load of crapola

How long do you think it took people in the United States to respond on a massive scale to their plight when the Great Depression hit?

Almost five years, five long years!

And in 1930, 1931, 1932, 1933 and well into 1934 some out of touch liberals claimed working people failed to organize because of their body weight, addiction to movies and radio and physical laziness! Sound familiar?

And when working people did finally organize on a massive scale the same alleged "liberals" attacked them for being way too militant and aggressive!

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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 02:00 PM
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27. There was no Internet in the 1930's and the finanicial situation is similiar
only in a relative sense. Technology has changed the specifics. This proves there is evolution within society.

The naysayers will continue to be used by there corporate owners. As a free citizen I refused to be owned.
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 01:08 PM
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9. May 22, 2011
Might happen the day after the Rapture doesn't occur that enough marks may wake up and realize they've been had...
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obxhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 01:40 PM
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17. No, they'll just set a new date.
Just like they have for the last 2000 years.
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 02:09 PM
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32. How will you know it didn't happen?
Jesus could land in the desert and take 40 days to make it out to civilization...
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 01:08 PM
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10. When YOU lead us
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 01:20 PM
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13. Waitin' on someone else? Not to overthrow Obama but to overthrow the
financial and fascist corporate suppression that keeps 99% of American citizens begging for their rights and equity in life, be it personal or financial. There are wall street and banking officials that should be in prison, not to mention the criminal torturers that
have made torture OK for the USA.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 01:28 PM
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15. They did
We did. I did in fact. And we were ignored and mocked.

There were major rallies against the war in Iraq, a huge march at the RNC convention in 2004.

And the white men in suits just rode by in their limousines and proceeded on as if there was nothing to worry about.

For those reasons I tend to not be the biggest fan of street protests.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 01:45 PM
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18. the 24th of Not Likely
As far as I can tell, the ONLY thing that would
"do it" would be if employers were forbidden from offering health care assistance/company health insurance coverage.

THAT would hit enough "middle-to-uppers" to wake them up, and send them to the streets.

If enough people had to pony up the whole amount , they would see why national health care is the ONLY solution.

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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 01:46 PM
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19. When we realize that it's US against the Corporations,
and not democrats vs repubs vs teabaggers vs homosexuals vs whatever else is waved in front of us as a distraction from the reality of our being screwn.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 01:55 PM
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23. That's the correct way to frame this.
It's not US against the government but against the corporations who right now own our government.
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 01:59 PM
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26. I totally agree with you...
...the key to creating unity is recognizing who the real enemy is -- not each other, but the corporate elite who enrich themselves at our expense, sow confusion and discord so that we cannot have effective dialog, and destroy the environment with reckless abandon.
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Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 01:48 PM
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20. In Egypt ...
... Mubarak has reigns for 30 years and unemployment is 40%.

The advertised U.S. 9% unemployment rate does not sell with a lot of folks, and 20% is a number I hear batted around. I'm inclined to believe it's a lot closer to 20% than 9%.

I think the suffering here in the U.S. will continue for at least the next two years, and probably for years to come.

Americans tend to be very comfortably, so perhaps that means they won't have to experience the pain Egyptians have had to endure before they wake up.
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 02:02 PM
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29. Under corporate fascism you can have 100% employment.
Employment has nothing to do with torture and corruption.
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Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 02:24 PM
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35. You make a good point about corruption and torture
Still, Americans soft underbelly hopefully means we won't wait until things are as bad as they are in Egypt.

However, I would disagree that the corporatocracy wants or would allow a 100% employment rate. Under 20-30% unemployment, the slaves toil harder.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 02:56 PM
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38. Americans are Also Very Spread Out
To get to the nation's Capitol is a 3000 mile trip for many of us.

Closer to home, there often isn't any obvious place to do it.
Many of the places we live have no real center.
Where do you go to protest?

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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 01:55 PM
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24. never
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 02:01 PM
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28. hehehe
yep
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 02:04 PM
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30. The is a great DU discussion! This is why I love this place even
Edited on Thu Feb-10-11 02:05 PM by Lint Head
with those I disagree with. We are free people together.:kick: :kick: :kick: :kick:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 02:06 PM
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31. in a way we are not taken seriously, and remember that saying
the government should be afraid of its people and not the other way around. Just my two cents.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 02:21 PM
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34. I'm pretty sick of that pharse. Has no meaning.
The Egyptians are not just 'in the streets'. Think about it. Asking a question so nonspecific and utterly vague is pointless.
I don't think most Americans laze around all day. Where do you get that impression? People I know work hard. Lazing around all day. Are they also driving a Lexus on welfare? It is just such a right wing framing, this lazy American, good for nothing, stupid, whining, lazing about the house. I do not see that as reality. I see that as right wing thinking.
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 02:31 PM
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36. It will be as much of a suprise here, as it was in Egypt. Sometime in the next 10 years.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 02:38 PM
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37. umm ... no.
A protest in one city, like Cairo, within a small country, like Egypt is NOT going to happen here.

The US is too large. Our elections too frequent.

What's do you see happening ... millions of pacifist liberals rioting in major cities across the country??

Or maybe you see the geriatric members of the Tea Party carrying pitch forks across the nation.

It's not going to happen, not in 10 years, not in 100 years.
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 04:00 PM
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39. A suprise, I should say, to some.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 04:17 PM
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41. Will not happen.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 04:14 PM
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40. first you have to make sure it's on a Weekend, no major sports games on , get some good music
some famous speakers.................

but as you say, we are already able to say what we want including protest with signs accusing our leaders of being evil, organize to vote them out etc.

the people in egypt and other places can't do that.

i don't know why people can't see the difference. we have elections regularly.
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