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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 02:35 PM
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In 2007, Phyllis Schlafly said that married women "consent to sex" and that it's not rape
Edited on Thu Feb-10-11 02:40 PM by alp227
Phyllis Schlafly, founder of Eagle Forum and leader of opposition to the Equal Rights Amendment, controversially said in 2007: "By getting married, the woman has consented to sex, and I don't think you can call it rape" during a lecture "Conservativism vs. Feminism: The Great Debate" at Bates College in Maine. This isn't the one disgusting thing she said that day.

She also said: "Women in combat are a hazard to other people around them. They aren't tall enough to see out of the trucks, they're not strong enough to carry their buddy off the battlefield if he's wounded, and they can't bark out orders loudly enough for everyone to hear." Generally: "For nearly two hours, she belittled the feminist movement as 'teaching women to be victims,' decried intellectual men as 'liberal slobs' and argued that feminism 'is incompatible with marriage and motherhood.'"

Seriously? Intellectual men who can think beyond the Bible and good ol' traditional Leave It to Beaver family values as "liberal slobs"? She sure knows how to talk that trash!

A year later, in an interview prior to receiving an honorary doctorate from Washington University in St. Louis (where she received a law degree in 1978), Schlafly defended her POV:

I think that when you get married you have consented to sex. That’s what marriage is all about, I don’t know if maybe these girls missed sex ed. That doesn’t mean the husband can beat you up, we have plenty of laws against assault and battery. If there is any violence or mistreatment that can be dealt with by criminal prosecution, by divorce or in various ways. When it gets down to calling it rape though, it isn’t rape, it’s a he said-she said where it’s just too easy to lie about it.


In contrast, as a US Senator, Vice President Joe Biden helped get his home state Delaware to stop using marriage as an exemption when prosecuting rape cases. Source: Joe Biden: A Life of Trial and Redemption by Jules Witcover, pp. 310-313.

Sadly, this "redefining rape" thing is hardly a new trend that began with Chris Smith's idiotic use of "forcible rape"; what's worse is that some women have no problem openly glorifying the old days of the submissive, inferior-to-man woman.
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 02:37 PM
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1. She is proof that only the good die young.
That old harridan needs to shut the fuck up.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 02:37 PM
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2. Phyllis Schlafly should just STFU.
If feminists hadn't happened, she'd not have the national platform she now enjoys.

Jeez.

:eyes:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 03:21 PM
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9. I'd just settle for her getting back in the apron and 4 inch heels to do her housework.
Isn't that what we're supposed to be doing, according to her?
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 02:41 PM
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3. Some people you just wish would "Go gently into that good night" already.
Schlafly is high on the list.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 03:12 PM
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4. A court in Oregon in 1974 recognized marital rape for the first time.
I remember discussing it in sex ed in high school at the time. It was a big deal then and it's still a big deal.

http://www.co.marion.or.us/DA/victimassistance/Sexual+Assault/The+Truth+About+Rape+and+Relationships.htm

Greta Rideout was the first plaintiff to successfully have her husband indicted for raping her.
http://law.jrank.org/pages/13228/Oregon-v-Rideout.html
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 03:16 PM
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5. i am 5'8"-9". does that 5'5" dude stay out and i go in. project, i tell hubby when i ask him to
tell kids dinner. gotta project. ya, kids will argue whether i can be heard.

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lapislzi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 03:18 PM
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6. Someone ought to alert my 7-foot tall friend
She towers over all the men I know and could lift me with one hand. She's also smart as a whip, funny, and gorgeous. She could squash Schlafly like a bug.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 03:18 PM
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7. Hey Phillys you should join me in a shoot out
it is close enough to combat for you to crap your pants, I guarantee it.

As to barking orders... you'd be shocked.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 03:20 PM
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8. That can't be right. Phylis Shlafly wants to ban porn, so she's a friend to women.
Just ask Mother Jones.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 03:41 PM
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10. Gross. I am ashamed to share this country with her and embarrassed that she is a member of my sex.
Hey, Schlafly? Even the FBI recognizes marital rape as a real and criminal phenomenon. Is the FBI wrong to classify it such?

http://books.google.com/books?id=ZhZdlxufjQMC&pg=PA41&lpg=PA41&dq=FBI+marital+rape&source=bl&ots=C4vqD62fDM&sig=Bvw1LK3O65VKVOOQzWkgGkfFJjo&hl=en&ei=xEtUTdGaLIG4sAPF_6zhCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CCwQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=FBI%20marital%20rape&f=false

Hope that links works and is not too messy. I felt the need to include something, because I have come across ignorant posts on other websites claiming the FBI does not record and has never recorded data on marital rape specifically.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 04:53 PM
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12. Is that walking corpse still around?
:puke:
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