It's the military...Mubarak would be nowhere without them...

cynatnite

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Thu Feb-10-11 04:12 PM
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It's the military...Mubarak would be nowhere without them...

The military leaders are complicit in helping keep Mubarak in power.

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Statistical

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Thu Feb-10-11 04:14 PM
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1. Of course they are.

The Egyptian military is no white knight.

The Egyptian military controls all key industries and roughly half of the country GDP.
The Egyptian military PUT Mubarak in power.
The Egyptian military control of the economy allows those at the top to siphon of billions of the Egytian people wealth.

The Egyptian military isn't going to let any "change" affect the status quo. They may abandon Mubarack but they are only going to back another guy to be a face on the same ole crony socialism.

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MadHound

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Thu Feb-10-11 04:15 PM
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2. You've got that all wrong,

It is the military that is slowly forcing him out, while keeping this whole thing stable and in control.

The army has come out early and often saying that it will not fire upon, or become violent in any way with peaceful protesters. They basically took Mubarak's trump card away.

So without the backing of the army, with the police and his mob thugs out of the picture, Mubarak is impotent, all bluster with nothing backing him up.

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Statistical

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Thu Feb-10-11 04:19 PM
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4. Mubarak is merely the figurehead of Egyptian military control of politics and the economy.

To separate the two into independent entities is foolish. The military will abandon Mubarak and replace him with a Mubarak 2.0.

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cynatnite

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Thu Feb-10-11 04:19 PM
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5. In what way do you see that the military does not support Mubarak anymore?

I'm not talking about the soldiers in the street. I'm talking about the military leaders. The military is always essential for anyone to remain in power. Those leaders have got Mubarak's back.

He is not impotent. According to the people of Egypt, nothing has changed one bit.

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MadHound

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Thu Feb-10-11 04:24 PM
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7. Then tell me why the army came out from the beginning,

Stating that they would not attack the protesters? Mubarak had to resort to his mob thugs to try and clear the streets when the army wouldn't.

Mubarak doesn't have the backing of the army. The army is simply looking for a way to make a stable, peaceful, relatively painless transition away from Mubarak.

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cynatnite

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Thu Feb-10-11 04:26 PM
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8. For the sake of their public image...the world is watching...

If Mubarak had no military support he would not be in power. No leader can remain in power without military support.

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Statistical

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Thu Feb-10-11 04:40 PM
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10. Mubarak is the military.

The military controls the political and economic systems in Egypt.
The military put Mubarak into power and when he is no longer useful they will replace him.

If Egypt is to have true Democracy it will be WITHOUT the support of the military.

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DJ13

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Thu Feb-10-11 04:16 PM
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3. .... and the US holds the purse strings that keeps them going

Sadly I dont expect our feckless leadership in DC to take a stand before more people get killed.

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damntexdem

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Thu Feb-10-11 04:20 PM
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6. They've played the whole thing to get more power and perks for themselves.

Whether or not they let Mubarak stay in power, they plan to be.

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cynatnite

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Thu Feb-10-11 04:26 PM
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9. This is all about their own self-preservation. I agree. n/t

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