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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 09:34 PM
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Foreclosuregate: Time To Put A Fork In MERS?


2011-02-13 12:38
Karl Denninger
in Foreclosuregate

Time To Put A Fork In MERS?


I was wondering how long this would take.... it appears that all the crooners that have appeared in front of Congress and elsewhere have finally had their heads cut off by.... as I expected..... a bankruptcy Judge.

Bankruptcy Judges are federal judges. The Federal bench tends to have a very low tolerance for bullcrap, although they do get bamboozled and fall prey to political arguments from time to time, like any body composed of humans. Nonetheless if you want to find justice, you usually will have a better shot at it in a Federal courtroom than in a State one. This means that if you're trying to play a game, you want to be in State court - but if you're looking for facts and logical analysis, you want to be in Federal court.

The case at bar here is one in which the debtor actually lost his motion to debar the creditor from lifting a bankruptcy stay. How, you might ask, can MERS get cornholed from a win? Simple: The debtor lost not on the merits but on res judicata, the legal principle that says "what's decided is decided." In this case (if I'm reading this correctly; I don't have the entire case history) the foreclosure hearing was held and decided before the debtor filed bankruptcy.

But the judge was obviously ****ed off and tired of the games. He could have issued a one-page order saying "go away." He didn't. Instead, he analyzed the entire MERS edifice and found that it does not comply with NY State Property Law.

Oops.



read the rest: http://market-ticker.org/
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 09:40 PM
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1. Denninger. K & R.
Not someone I agree with 100 PERCENT of the time but a lot of the time he is most excellent.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 09:57 PM
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3. This is especially superb:
Edited on Sun Feb-13-11 09:58 PM by chill_wind


"Finally, the court serves up the piece-de-resistance, quoting the Kansas Supreme Court in Landmark, which I have previously discussed was likely to come and bite these jackals in the arse:



This Court finds that MERS’s theory that it can act as a “common agent” for undisclosed principals is not support by the law. The relationship between MERS and its lenders and its distortion of its alleged “nominee” status was appropriately described by the Supreme Court of Kansas as follows: “The parties appear to have defined the word in much the same way that the blind men of Indian legend described an elephant – their description depended on which part they were touching at any given time.”


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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 10:41 PM
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8. Uh -




WHOA! MOST WONDERFUL WORDING



Never in a million years would I expect a Supreme Court to mention the elephant and blind man parable!
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 09:42 PM
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2. Hallelujah. And force every player that traded/ moved notes/titles around
to pay up all the fees to the Counties and States that they avoided by creating MERS. We need our property laws back, including the transfer fees.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 10:04 PM
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4. Wonder if that is why the announcement the government was dropping Fannie/Freddie?
I esp love that MERS is getting it from all sides.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 10:07 PM
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5. This is interesting info about the difference between our state and
Federal courts....
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 10:20 PM
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6. The Court needs to look a little closer, and observe that high profile persons already take title
in bland or institutional sounding trusts.

Is the Court throwing out all title which sounds in this tradition.

This is going precisely nowhere.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 10:42 PM
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9. The biggest fraud in the history of the capital markets-- it does pose many moral and legal dilemmas
I'm sure.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 10:34 PM
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7. MERS`101: Think of MERS as Dr Frankenstein's Operating Table
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 11:43 PM
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10. MERS works wonderfully
when real estate markets are healthy, it streamlines the entire mortgage assignment process. Clearly, they didn't think ahead to the time when the shit was hitting the fan.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 12:32 AM
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13. Oh, they were thinking. They just didn't think their scheme would fall apart.
Edited on Mon Feb-14-11 12:33 AM by chill_wind
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 11:58 PM
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11. Recommend. n/t
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 12:27 AM
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12. K&R
Stick the fork in MERS!
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 12:33 AM
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14. Reading the court transcript in Pinellas county some time ago
was more entertainment than I could stand in regards to MERS (Pinellas judge tossed every single MERS case out).
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