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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 01:05 PM
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Pentagon’s 2012 Spending Proposal Is ‘The Largest Request Ever’ Since World War II
Pentagon’s 2012 Spending Proposal Is ‘The Largest Request Ever’ Since World War II


Today, Defense Secretary Robert Gates will formally unveil the Pentagon’s spending plan on Capitol Hill. Promising to request “the minimum level of funding we can live with,” defense officials, congressional aides, and analysts insist that the proposal “will make clear that the post-9/11 military spending spree has ended.” But the actual number tells a different story: the Pentagon’s $553 billion price tag for 2012 actually marks “the largest request ever” since World War II:

Defense Secretary Robert Gates already has revealed the Pentagon will seek $553 billion in its 2012 Pentagon budget plan — the largest request ever — and slower growth than planned over the next four years. He also has revealed proposals to end several major weapons programs, including the Marine Corps’ Expeditionary Fighting Vehicle (EFV).

That means the spending plan “will be anti-climactic in the broad sense,” according to one senior House defense aide.

Indeed, while Gates promised to cut $78 billion over five years, most of that reduction would take place in 2014 and 2015. As Center for American Progress senior fellow and President Reagan’s former assistant secretary of defense Larry Korb points out, Obama’s request is “5% higher than what the Defense Department plans to spend this year. In inflation-adjusted dollars, this figure is higher than at any time during the Bush years or during the Cold War.” In fact, the total military budget this year “comes in at a thumping $750 billion — an annual tax of more than $7,000 on every household in the country.” And while there are clear ways to cut $1 trillion from the Pentagon budget, it seems that many in the GOP have no intention of doing so.


http://thinkprogress.org/2011/02/14/pentagon-budget-largest/

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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 01:06 PM
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1. No austerity for them! n/t
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 01:09 PM
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3. We got to protect ourselves from the Germans bombing Hawaii
Again.........

and those terrorist that surround your house and jobs.

Did that make sense? ...... Well neither does their budget.
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Chisox08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 01:26 PM
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14. and we are still paynig for the founding father ending slavery at Iwo Jima
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Shining Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 04:18 PM
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32. But on the plus side...
North Korea is our ally!1!!
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 01:08 PM
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2. Just curious - does "since WW II" mean in actual dollars or in adjusted value dollars?
Actual dollars would be pretty low, I would think. It probably means adjusted value.

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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 03:05 PM
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28. what are "adjusted value" dollars? do you mean constant (inflation adjusted) dollars?
i'd bet this year's budget is the/one of the largest defense budgets since ww2 in both current & constant dollars.
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 04:14 PM
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30. yes, inflation.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 01:09 PM
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Absurdity, yes, austerity, not so much
I hope (perhaps unwarranted) that the spending will contribute in some manner to job growth and expansion of the American economy.

Military spending seems to be the one way you can get a Republican to bend a little money toward a working class person's job.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 01:09 PM
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4. Well, those tribesmen in Afghanistan are not going to chase themselves around with drone aircraft
"an annual tax of more than $7,000 on every household in the country.”

Wow! How about we give every citizen in Afghanistan and Iraq the seven grand directly and call it a day?
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 01:10 PM
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5. shared sacrifice my ass. nt
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 01:11 PM
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6. To allow them to do that...
let's cut everything else the poor rely on. Who needs heat? Who needs healthcare? Who needs to go to college? Hell, who needs Social Security? All of that stuff is overrated anyways.

:sarcasm:

:eyes:
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 01:18 PM
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10. *maybe the 'idea' is*
*Are you tired of the hunger, the freeze, the pain?*
*Well, my starving son/daughter, come to 'mommy forces' and enroll...*
*Because we're not done yet at murdering those dark skin's terrariss families, who TREATHEN the EXISTENCE of the U.S.*

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :banghead:
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 01:20 PM
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11. Why would the Pentagon need such a huge budget?
I don't understand. Are we in danger? If so, from who?

Our worst enemy is ourselves.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 01:25 PM
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12. Simple. Because many (well, a few) billionnaires...
(who send big kick-backs to their 'benefactors' in govern.)

never want less.

No cuts for these a-holes. None. Nope.

Be afraid. Be very, very afraid, is their (sickening) mantra.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 02:44 PM
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25. We are now pretty much a fascist country in many ways and those holding the
wealth and power get more wealthy from this.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 01:13 PM
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7. Doesn't the constitution demand we "provide for the welfare of the generals"?
Edited on Mon Feb-14-11 01:14 PM by Tierra_y_Libertad
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 02:05 PM
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23. Damn..I been misreading that fine print all these years.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 01:15 PM
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8. There is a grotesque CIA, NSA, and spy satellite budget that needs cut, too...eom
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 01:15 PM
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9. K & R. n/t
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 01:26 PM
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13. Let the generals go door-to-door selling popcorn, candy, and wrapping paper.
When they get to my home, I'll point to the "No solicitors" sign on the door and tell them to have a nice day.
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sibelian Donating Member (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 01:28 PM
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15. Well, I guess they're planning a very VERY big war, then.

Which is a bit sad.
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Chisox08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 01:31 PM
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16. I know where I can cut at least $100 billion from the federal budget
Too bad our elected leaders only feel that sacrifices should only be on the backs of the poor.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 01:35 PM
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17. This spending is yet another example of American Imperialism trying to
manipulate and control the rest of earth. And the pure marriage of gov., corps., the MIC. The fruition of all of the things Ike warned us about years ago.

Many in America live in poverty, many children go hungry, many die of health issues, the infrastructure is falling apart, more and more crap going on, but we certainly love our MIC. Our greatest fear should be decay from within, not going after the bogymen. A lot of people are getting very wealthy from this, what a manipulated society we live in ... and many Americans choose to be willfully stupid.




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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 01:40 PM
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18. Republicans are absolutely fascinated by both sex, and things that go boom.
Blow shit up; it is the American way. The more we blow up the more we get to spend later on renewing the things that go boom so we can blow up some more shit..America is the Largest Purveyor of Death on the Planet... We should be so very damn proud..
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 01:47 PM
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19. How ridiculous does something have to be to become ridiculously ridiculous?
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 01:55 PM
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21. Absolutely ridiculous. n/t
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 01:54 PM
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20. Wait a minute
I thought Obama talk about cutting defense spending, so why did they put forward this mess,
are they trying to show who is the boss?

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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 01:58 PM
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22. CIA: At most, 50-100 Al Qaeda in Afghanistan (ABC News)
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/06/cia-at-most-50100-al-qaeda-in-afghanistan.html

CIA: At most, 50-100 Al Qaeda in Afghanistan
June 27, 2010 9:29 AM

In an EXCLUSIVE interview on “This Week,” CIA Director Leon Panetta told host Jake Tapper that there were “at most” only 50-100 Al Qaeda in Afghanistan.

“How many Al Qaeda, do you think, are in Afghanistan?” Tapper asked.

“I think the estimate on the number of Al Qaeda is actually relatively small,” Panetta said. “At most, we’re looking at 50 to 100, maybe less. It’s in that vicinity. There’s no question that the main location of Al Qaeda is in the tribal areas of Pakistan.”

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

And not all of them have shoes.
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sibelian Donating Member (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 02:07 PM
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24. Maybe they're all really BIG. You know, Godzilla-size Al Qaida guys.

With radioactive terrorist breath! That'd be really scary.
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 03:02 PM
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27. But of course they are despondent about a US puppet being kicked out of Egypt!
Edited on Mon Feb-14-11 03:03 PM by RedCloud
:rofl:
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 08:18 PM
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34. I bet if we just gave them the 100 billion apiece, they'd be willing to move.
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 02:45 PM
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26. REMEMBER THOUGH: IT'S SHARED SACRIFICE!!!
:eyes:
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 03:38 PM
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29. This country can no longer afford to WASTE money like this.
Do we have to outsource our military hardware to China where we can
buy 10 stealth fighters for the price of our one.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 04:16 PM
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31. turn the trousers upside-down suckers!
:rofl:
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 04:20 PM
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33. Now that is worth sacrificing heating assistance for the elderly for!!
:sarcasm:

well maybe not, but it's gonna happen that way....
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 08:23 PM
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35. More war! Less jobs! What a great slogan. Rec'd n/t
Edited on Mon Feb-14-11 08:23 PM by Catherina
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