We are not ready for a revolution.

We have not hit bottom yet. We have not been taken far enough out of our comfort zone. Most of us still believe that the political process could just possibly still work. Most of us still think we can possibly increase our chips while everyone else is holding aces up their sleeve, even though we are aware that they are. Most of us are still jerking off to some kind of political fantasy.

we should revolt against our own constitution?

As well as violating federal law. That's all it would take to clean out the Supreme Court, the Obama administration, the CIA, the FBI, Congress, all the branches of the military, the DEA, the FDA, etc.

NO TOLERANCE for crime - starting from the top down.

A little bit over simplified, don't you think?

Demanding enforcement of the law is not a "revolt". I wish people would choose their words more carefully.

Trying to compare the USA to the Middle East is like comparing apples to watermelons - ridiculous!

"revolution". They are really disheartening.

Makes me wonder if their lives are really that bad.

Or is it parabolic? I can never keep the two straight... :+

expressed by DU's armchair revolutionaries.It's harmless rebellion porn with no basis in fact.It's where the left meets up with the teabaggers.

We are way too soft, too fat, too comfortable. And that is why we have allowed our freedoms to be eroded, as though they are trivialities.

Freedom of the press? Assembly?

I see you are still jerking off to political fantasies.

:shrug:

When did we lose freedom of the press and assembly? In what way, shape or form were these made illegal?

It could certainly be argued that the 'press' is not fair or balanced AND industry consolidation has added to that.

As for assembly?

I take it you're not old enough to have experienced 'assembly' before you had to get a permit

"fair and balanced". Do you understand the difference between the two? For the record, I would bring the Fairness Doctrine back, but that doesn't mean we don't have a free press in its absence.

... for Wall Street.

Corporate capitalism and the ensuing models of "synergy" (or whatever the corporate speak equivalent is for the brilliant scene in that crappy movie) have made freedom of the press a rather... transitory reality. A press outlet is free while it is able to make money, until it makes enough money to attract the attention of Wall St. raiders, who will buy it up... impose labor cuts while trying to drive up audience share/advertising revenue... until the labor cuts finally make the enterprise untenable and it becomes impossible to maintain audience/advertising revenue... at which point it will either be re-packaged or diced up in preparation for a sale.

It is impossible to maintain a "quality press" in this financial reality/context for any length of time... and that creates a de facto limitation of the "freedom of the press"... except for those interests who are willing to operate at a loss, if need be, in order to disseminate the "facts" that they would choose to disseminate (Washington Times, New York Post, San Francisco Examiner... etc.).

You are too rigidly expecting the propagandized autocratic methodology of repression of the "press" if you fail to acknowledge the uses of the "free market", not to mention to effects of continuing-ly multiplying venues for the dissemination of false news (FOX, Michelle Malkin-esque blogs, etc.), which has the effect of drowning out any potentially accurate news sources which might spring up, albeit without name-recognition, as the market trends work to bastardize the sources of previously trustworthy "name brands" in news.

As for the right to assembly... you've heard about law enforcement efforts to insert agents into peace organizations? You've heard of COINTELPRO efforts to place agent provocateurs into organizations in order to create events which would then justify prosecution of said organizations? Are you entirely satisfied that these clandestine government activities haven't been re-started during the course of the decade that this country has been involved in two controversial wars?

And, as one last parting thought... how much emphasis are you going to put on the term "made illegal", while government officials who endorsed waterboarding, which was punishable as a war-crime after WWII, are free to go about their business?

we haven't lost either one.

Besides, I would rather mock and poke fun at teapartiers from a cozy internet perch than meet those people with a lead pipe in the street.

Mainly because they would have guns and I would have a lead pipe.

I am being honest and open. You want to talk about unfair? Let's begin with wiretapping, rendition, habeas corpus, the draining of our economy thanks to two unjust and illegal wars, the patriot act, the shifting of taxpayer dollars to wall street, the bailout of the auto industry.

That's for starters and I could go on. But why bother? You seem to want to cling to your residual belief in a system that has been taken over completely by people whose interests run directly counter to 98 percent of the people in this country.

with whom I find myself strongly disagreeing.

Even your own list is not a perfect clarion call to me.

But I'll say this, Joe. I like your passion!

We Americans have it a hell of a lot better off here than those folks in the Middle East.
That is why we sane folks won't revolt, can't say the same thing for the nutty teabaggers ;)

Post of the week.

The vast majorities of both countries are workers. Both peoples are afflicted by capitalism. Those similarities are greater than nationality or religion, we all must eat.

revolution.

who see the writing on the wall?

Where are you?

dude. We also have remedies within our system.

When you call for "revolution", to be blunt, that sounds no different to me than the Tea Party, who, if given the chance, in my mind wouldn't hesitate to scrap the parts of the Constitution they don't like.

So, tell me, Joe, are you asking people to revolt against our Constitution?

Why do you say that? What makes you think I want to get rid of the constitution? I happen to like it. I happen to believe in it.

I truly wish the assholes in Washington who are supposed to be representing us felt the same toward the constitution as I do.

But your post validates my position.

revolution and get rid of the Obama administration.

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But Clinton was even worse. We suffer today from NAFTA and GATT and the Telecommunications Act. Obama's cancer will present later, I know. But I've been just where you're at - you're not alone.

some people are losing perspective.

There is nothing Republican about the President and he's certainly not worse than Bush.

Yikes!

dude. Remember that? It was in 1776.

It's funny how when someone speaks like you have, here in this OP, a cluster of others come out and falsely claim you advocate attacking the Constitution.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4734999

Today will be even bigger. One of the largest school districts in the state is closed today due to a "Sick Out"

You can't get 40% of the people in this country to take a monring off and go vote ... you think you can get them in the streets for days?

And if you want a revolution, you'll have to expend some effort and describe what your new future looks like.

Declaring that "the end is near", is not sufficient.

Right now I know too many people who are struggling to get by to have a "comfort zone". They're just trying to keep above water and doing whatever they can to keep the wolves from the door. Not everyone can afford the bus or train or plane fare to a large DC march or the time involved. They don't watch and live politics and cable news...they deal with the essentials and go about it pretty much on their own.

This is a silent depression...a faceless one as we don't have the breadlines or soup kitchens. It's one where one can complain but what's the use...the system is dominated by the rich and powerful who make sure the country remains divided and easy to exploit.

The word "revolution" sounds so romantic...the reality is far different. If you'd like to see the country plunge into anarchy, even more restrictive government and repression...keep dreaming of "revolutions".

at a time when there are no jobs, people are losing their homes and have no health care. Good goddess don't rock the boat now! :sarcasm: