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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 06:18 AM
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Science condemns GM crops
As long as we are getting DU posts celebrating Corporate Science (R), we might as well hear from the non-corporately funded side...

GM CROPS KILLING SOIL

...a recent scientific study carried out by Navdanya, compared the soil of fields where Bt-cotton had been planted for 3 years with adjoining fields with non GMO cotton or other crops. The region covered included Nagpur, Amravati and Wardha of Vidharbha which accounts for highest GMO cotton planting in India, and the highest rate of farmers suicides (4000 per year).

In 3 years, Bt-cotton has reduced the population of Actinomycetes by 17%. Actinomycetes are vital for breaking down cellulose and creating humus.

Bacteria were reduced by 14%. The total microbial biomass was reduced by 8.9%.

http://www.i-sis.org.uk/BtCottonKillsSoilandFarmers.php

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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 06:27 AM
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1. GM soy damages health and the environment - New study - birth defects
"A coalition of international scientists has released a report warning of the health and environmental impacts of cultivating genetically modified (GM) Roundup Ready soy and the associated spraying of
glyphosate (Roundup) herbicide.

"The findings in the new report, GM Soy: Sustainable? Responsible?, challenge claims that GM soy cultivation is sustainable and that the glyphosate herbicide it is genetically engineered to tolerate is safe."

http://www.corporateeurope.org/agribusiness/news/2010/09/22/gm-soy-damages-health-and-environment
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 06:29 AM
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2. Corporations block real scientific study of GMO crops
"Monsanto has been systematically blocking researchers from using its patented gene modified (GMO) seeds to learn if there are problems with them, according to an explosive op-ed in yesterday’s LA Times by Doug Gurian-Sherman of the Union of Concerned Scientists..."

http://redgreenandblue.org/2011/02/14/monsanto-blocks-research-on-gmo-safety/
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 06:50 AM
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3. "Thank you, thank you, thank you for this thread." - SpiralHawk (D)
"Of course it's not often that I thank myself, but it seemed essential this morning to do so. After all, someone has to provide a counterpoint to corporate black-ops sockpuppetry (R), and this time it's good old me.

"Naturally, anyone with access to THE GOOGLE could find scads more VALID SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE that corporate genetic mutation and ownership of the food chain is dangerous. But to take the initiative to actually google, and then post -- well, that's quite noble and intrepid if I do say so myself. I think I will take myself out for a rewarding breakfast of real, non-mutant food, and then -- because I do not get paid for posting propaganda -- I will go do an honest day's work."

- SpiralHawk (D - Working Class Hero American)

"We thank you, too, Spiral Dude." - Non-corporate Scientific Horde
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 04:03 PM
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14. Thank you, SpiralHawk.
For this thread and everything.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 06:51 AM
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4. It's been quite obvious that......
the multinational, agri-business behemoths single-mindedly pushing GMOs into the environment wouldn't really care about the percentage decrease in Actinomycetes. It's the potential percentage increase in their profits that drive their short sighted, selfish, avaricious policies.


Pro-GM Science Community Public Enemy or Its Own Worst Enemy

Open Letter to Sir Paul Nurse (eminent British biologist /JC)

Dr. Brian John, GM Free Cymru

26th January 2011

Dear Sir Paul,

THE GM SCIENCE COMMUNITY IS ITS OWN WORST ENEMY

I was interested to watch the BBC Horizon programme in which you examine some of the reasons why the public at large is profoundly sceptical about science and scientists.

snip

3.I am intrigued by your apparent belief that scientists are always truthful and honest, and that they are all signed up to an unbreakable code of ethics. If only that were true. In the GM field, as in the field of pharmaceuticals, research is driven aboveall else by the profit motive, and corporate funding has largely taken the place of public funding both in the prioritization of research and in the conduct of experiments. In our researches over the past decade, we in GM-Free Cymru have homed in on case after case of poor science, selective or biased science, and fraudulent science. We have exposed many examples of “nutritional equivalence” feeding trials dressed up as “safety trials” and of scientific conclusions which are at variance with data sets. Further, we have shown that in the great majority of cases scientists themselves have allowed their work to be distorted and misrepresented, on the basis that the paymaster (be it Monsanto, Syngenta or any other applicant for a GM consent) calls the tune, and that whistleblowers are not tolerated. The conspiracy of connivance and silence that we have uncovered is truly appalling - and something of which the scientific community should be truly ashamed.

5.You apparently fail to realize that GM research is very different from publicly-funded climate research in that it isdriven, either directly or indirectly, by corporate funding, with Monsanto, Syngenta and Bayer to the fore. The involvement of these companies, and others, is sometimes acknowledged and sometimes not in academic papers, and there have been many occasions on which so-called public laboratories and research institutes have produced work without mention of how their priorities are set and where their funds and salaries have come from. That situation is an inherently dangerous one, when it comes to scientific integrity. You may not be aware that the great bulk of research work on the matter of GM safety is conducted in conjunction with applications to the regulators (like ACNFP in the UK and EFSA in Europe) for growing or marketingconsents or approvals. The bulk of the data relating to these studies is contained within “supporting dossiers” which are NOT made available for independent peer review or scrutiny. Over and again, organizations such as ours have had to resort to Freedom of Information requests or even to the courts to obtain sight of these dossiers, which come to us with large sections blacked out. Yet these dossiers are ALWAYS accepted as honest and truthful by the regulators prior to issuing their recommendations to the EC for approvals. When data sets and dossiers are examined, we have almost always found serious shortcomings and scientific fraud. When Professor Gilles-Eric Seralini pointed this out in a series of peer-reviewed papers, he was subjected to a series of vicious attacks by spokesmen from the GM industry, as a result of which he brought (and won) a case of defamation against his opponents in the French courts.

http://www.i-sis.org.uk/Open_Letter_to_Sir_Paul_Nurse.php

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era veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 08:05 AM
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5. Organic can save the planet, Rodale was right
Monsanto, IMHO, is the most evil company on the planet.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 08:12 AM
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7. Yep, the "green revolution" of chemical fertlizers, pesticides and herbicides
Has killed vast swathes of land in this country. At this point if we went cold turkey on fertilizers, our food production would crash. Chemicals have leached all the nutrients out of the soil and left tens of thousands of acres barren and infertile. What we have to do is start rebuilding our soil, one field at a time, building it back up, so that it can produce again. This will take twenty or more years to do, but we need to start now in order to avoid a mass catastrophe.

Once soil is fertile again, it can remain so indefinitely, so long as farmers practice old school crop rotation. One of those rotations includes letting a field become grazing pasture for a season, thus allowing animals to manure the field, restoring nutrient and fertilizer. It is also another reason we need to legalize hemp crops. Hemp is an excellent nitrogen fixer, and is very beneficial for soil health.
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era veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 05:55 PM
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15. Agreed, one field at a time, lower yields at first and then
better every year after. Agri business, while producing lots of food is taking the supply and future down the wrong road. The organic way takes time but future payoffs would be enormous.
You can see my compost piles from outer space.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 06:48 PM
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17. Plus hemp has so many uses, even as a fuel i believe
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 09:31 AM
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10. organics depend on growing more diversified crops and doing it more locally>
less centralized. Therefore, not as lucrative for largest corporations.
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era veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 08:09 AM
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6. Rodale was right, organic farming can save the planet.
Monsanto, IMHO, is the most evil company on the planet.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 01:59 PM
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12. Organic farming can feed the planet, clean the currently chem-soaked water
give clean work for many unemployed, and clean food for all...
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 08:23 AM
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8. Can the destructive effects of GM planting be reversed?
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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 09:30 AM
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9. Not once it's in the wild.
n.t.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 06:54 PM
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19. Consider the cane toad in Australia
Despite a massive push to kill cane toads (including a bounty), they're still out there and still driving native species to extinction.
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CanSocDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 09:35 AM
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11. Great OP....k&r
Edited on Fri Feb-18-11 09:36 AM by CanSocDem

"...DU posts celebrating Corporate Science..."


They can't define "safe" so the next best quality is 'Well, it creates profit therefore it must be good'.

And as we all know, science promotes the public interest.


:rofl: :rofl:

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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 03:58 PM
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13. kick n/t
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 06:24 PM
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16. One type of crop is reportedly killing one type of bacteria, Crop... not Crops
I would suggest crop rotation, just like it has been done for hundreds of years, but I am not a farmer
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 06:50 PM
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18. Whither all the "sound science" people? Rec'd with IMMENSE anger n/t
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 07:54 PM
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20. Some more sound science: miscarriages & infertility
roxiejules posted this in the editorials forum

Researcher: Roundup or Roundup-Ready Crops May Be Causing Animal Miscarriages and Infertility

One of the nation’s senior soil scientists alerted the federal government to a newly discovered organism that may have the potential to cause infertility and spontaneous abortion in farm animals, raising significant concerns about human health.

Dr. Don Huber, professor emeritus at Purdue University, believes the appearance and prevalence of the unnamed organism may be related to the nation’s over reliance on the weed killer known as Roundup and/or to something about the genetically engineered Roundup-Ready crops.

In a letter to Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack, the professor called on the federal government to immediately stop deregulation of roundup ready crops, particularly roundup ready alfalfa.

read the rest at link: http://farmandranchfreedom.org/gmo-miscarriages

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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 07:56 PM
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21. Big kick & rec for this!
Thanks, Spiralhawk


Some hearts for ya! :loveya:
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 07:57 PM
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22. You are a Magnificent non-GMO Sweetie, DR
xxxooo
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 12:37 PM
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23. Thank you dear,Spiralhawk.....
xoxo to you too...and another kick for this while I'm at it. ;)
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