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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 06:32 AM
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Unbelivable propaganda on "Fox And Fiends"
Steve Doocy was interviewing John Fund, the anti-abortion activist that once impregnated the daughter of his own girlfriend, and then forced her to get an abortion.

They were talking about the Wisconsin protests. Doocy implied that unions were busing people from out of state to whip up hysteria.

Then Doocy asked John Fund if that was happening. And the fornicator replied "I don't know." And elaborated that it that if that is happening, then AFSCME should be very ashamed.

I'm full throated in my belief in first-amendment rights, but it is just unbelievable that people (nee corporations) can get away with spinning such webs of lies. It is shameful.

Can't Eric Holder do anything about it? He's been pretty useless so far, so I doubt it.
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chillspike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 06:35 AM
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1. I'm sorry, Doocy was interviewing what???
Why?
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 06:39 AM
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4. John Fund, the anti-abortion activist that once impregnated the daughter of his own girlfriend
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chillspike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 06:44 AM
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7. LOL
Why would they even WANT to interview someone like that for his opinions?
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 06:50 AM
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8. I don't understand why shows ever invite the guy on anymore
Edited on Fri Feb-18-11 06:51 AM by Syrinx
He is a supreme hypocrite. I just don't get it, at all.
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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 08:48 AM
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16. They obviously adore sexual predators like Bill O'Reilly.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 06:37 AM
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2. I'm glad you watched because millions of people are getting their "information"
or rather disinformation from Fox. I couldn't bear to tune in. I watched a few minutes of CNN yesterday and it really upset me.

As for Holder, I don't see what he can do about it.
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du_da Donating Member (239 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 06:38 AM
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3. Maybe I am reading this wrong
but didn't the host call the guest out on the potential dishonesty in that scenario? Isn't what you are complaining about not happening exactly what happened? We can take Fox to task for many things, but I am not sure your example helps the cause. Either that or I am reading it wrong, please correct me if I am.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 06:43 AM
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6. I'm not quite following you either
The host suggested evil on the part of the union, and the guest said "I don't know." And then went on to speak as if the union was evil.
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du_da Donating Member (239 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 07:18 AM
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9. No, according to the OP the guest
"implied" that people were being bused in and that this was wrong. The host asked for clarification to verify that this was indeed happening and the guest was then on the spot having to say he didn't know for sure. Well, isn't that what the host should have done?
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 07:41 AM
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10. zot :)
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 08:07 AM
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12. You need a graphic...
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 07:43 AM
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11. The only point of having such "guests" on these shows
Is to make the point that the host, and FOX, itself, is advocating for. I guess it gives the illusion of objectivity, to bring in some so-called "expert" from the outside, but nobody's fooled, except those who have already bought into seeing FOX as "news." x(
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du_da Donating Member (239 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 08:40 AM
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15. So...
news agencies shouldn't interview people? I am not sure what you are getting at.

Call Fox out on only bringing on RW interviewees that is fine, although with the way MSNBC works I am not sure that is a study we want to actually go through. Fox is bad in that category but the track record for bringing on people from the opposing side is much worse on the shows we tend to support. We aren't particularly forgiving when our favored TV personalities do that.

Also call them out when they are being dishonest, that is a great tactic and very effective especially when dealing with specific Fox personalities who tend to not do their homework.

However, calling them out when the host is actually doing their job. I am not sure that is particularly beneficial to our cause.
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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 08:53 AM
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17. I don't believe that is the case.
Exactly which "liberal" news sources are you referring to that don't allow for "Fair and Balanced" reporting.
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du_da Donating Member (239 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 09:02 AM
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20. There is a reason
MSNBC has a hard time competing for ratings. To the general public they are seen as not having an internal counter balance. Have you ever noticed how few guests the evening hosts have on who are not defined as "liberals." Rachel is the exception and even she is selective and does it rarely. Fox on the other hand has formats that include what the mainstream defines as "liberals" every night although they do surround them with conservatives to beat them up. But I don't think we would be at all comfortable with a result of a study of the balance of such an issue. Look at the thread dealing with Coulter appearing on MSNBC, and that was an extremely rare event. She is certainly a wack job, but like her or not she is a major mouthpiece for the right and we are not at all welcoming of her or others like her on the shows we watch.

Good or bad, that is how it is and I don't think any of us want to change that. However, it doesn't make it any less true.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 09:24 PM
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23. My point is that news agencies, as such, should aim to report the truth
No matter which side of the political divide this reflects on. Fox is known for representing only one point of view, and if any "guest" sends the "wrong" message, they can and have exercised the option of shouting them down, constantly interrupting or cutting off their microphone.

The two cable news channels, CNN and MSNBC, are more varied in their coverage, but still favor the right, in their quest for "fairness." Rachel Maddow and Chris Matthews are known for giving both sides their fair say. And Randi Rhodes finally quit going on CNN after she was repeatedly put up against two right-wingers.

Even Bill Maher, though his is a comedy show which focuses on politics, makes it a point to have Republican guests, though they are not popular with his mainly "liberal" audience. And Jon Stewart, also a comedy show, but one that the younger crowd depends on for their news, has had John McCain and Bill Kristol as favorite guests, and just last night featured Ed Gillespie.



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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 08:11 AM
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13. Are you familiar with the term "straw man"? The POINT was for FOX to introduce this canard.
Edited on Fri Feb-18-11 08:13 AM by WinkyDink
Host, guest, it's all the same PROPAGANDA MACHINE.
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Dennis Donovan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 06:41 AM
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5. Ed Schultz exposed Club for Growth and Americans for Prosperity were actively busing...
...counter-protesters to Madison. Sorry Douchey, you were right about the busing but wrong about which side was doing it.
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BobbyBoring Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 08:37 AM
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14. I saw that
He is such a douche bag! I got a big kick out of the dumb lady who ever she is calling all the protesters "Liberals".

No wonder Americans are so dumbed down~
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 08:55 AM
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18. Whats unbelievable about it?
Its Fox and Friends
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 08:56 AM
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19. Oh but when the Koch bros bus people into teabagger rallies, that's totally fine.
I see.
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Jokinomx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 09:46 AM
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21. I switched to Faux news this morning to catch their slant...surprise
Edited on Fri Feb-18-11 09:48 AM by Jokinomx
I broke in and they had a clip of Ed Shultz in Madison supporting the protesters. I actually thought they were interviewing him..however, they returned to discuss all this with some dipshit that asked what Ed Shultz was taking (drug) and continued to belittle the guy.

They were all just slamming the protest from any angle they could think of. They kept saying the extremist left... the Governor will get what he wants... basically that this protest is useless.

:puke:
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 10:06 AM
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22. Fox And Friends is for people
that have no friends
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