How possible will it be to restore WI collective bargaining rights after this?

brentspeak

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Fri Feb-18-11 12:08 PM
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How possible will it be to restore WI collective bargaining rights after this?

Suppose the best happens -- Walker is recalled in Jan 2012 and a new Democratic gov is elected in his place: would it be possible to pass a law reinstating WI public employee collective bargaining rights? Or would Walker and the GOP try to make their new power play permanent before-hand?

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Taverner

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Fri Feb-18-11 12:09 PM
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1. From the likes of the Dems these days, I would be pleasantly surprised if thjey restored it

Most likely, they'd offer up some kind of pillow talk, and then capitulate to a Republican Minority

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Jackpine Radical

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Fri Feb-18-11 12:14 PM
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3. Our Dems are not wimps, thank you.

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Taverner

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Fri Feb-18-11 12:52 PM
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13. I hope to dog you are right

I guess I am just too cynical these days

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Jackpine Radical

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Fri Feb-18-11 12:57 PM
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14. Think of people like Feingold, Tammy Baldwin, Dave Obey

and remember where they came from.

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Thunderstruck

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Fri Feb-18-11 12:10 PM
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2. The law taking away collective bargaining hasn't passed yet, has it? So there is yet

Edited on Fri Feb-18-11 12:11 PM by Thunderstruck

to be any reason to "reinstate" it.

Remember that the WI Dems are out of the state to protest the vote on the bill that would end collective bargaining for public empoyees.

That is unless I missed something since yesterday.

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ProgressiveProfessor

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Fri Feb-18-11 12:15 PM
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4. Per other posts here at DU, a similar bill that does not require a quorum to pass can be introduced

and pass. Waiting to see if the repukes go that route.

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Thunderstruck

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Fri Feb-18-11 12:17 PM
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5. Ah, thanks =). I did not know that Well, that blows if indeed it is the case.

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brentspeak

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Fri Feb-18-11 12:19 PM
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7. The GOP has the votes to pass, and the Dems have to return eventually

Even msnbc says that the inevitable is merely being delayed.

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former9thward

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Fri Feb-18-11 12:17 PM
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6. No legislature can bind a future legislature,

Any law that is passed can be undone by a legislature in the future or even by the current legislature. No law is permanent.

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brentspeak

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Fri Feb-18-11 12:26 PM
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11. Thanks. That's good to know

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HereSince1628

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Fri Feb-18-11 12:30 PM
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12. True, and the overturning of the law requires a majority

Wisconsin is a purple sort of place. Of course you can't have a purple candidate and belong to a party.
So Wisconsin may be called perversely purple, often choosing to go with candidate who can make the sharp and hard consonants of extreme rhetoric rather than muted mumblings from the middle (which helps explain why a very smart, rational guy like Barrett was ingloriously defeated in his run against Walker).

Moreover, it's definitely a 'what have you done for me lately?" sort of state. And what's happening in Madison is exactly the sort of thing that gives Wisconsintes answers to that question.

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Ozymanithrax

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Fri Feb-18-11 12:20 PM
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8. You would have to have a Democratic majority in the House and Senate...

and a governor who will sign the bill. Also, you would have to make sure Republicans are nto going to run out of the state to stop it.

It is more efficient to stop it from happening than to try and reinstae it once done.

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Jackpine Radical

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Fri Feb-18-11 01:01 PM
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15. Yes, better to stop it.

But, if there is anything left of democracy in this state, I think the Rs are guaranteeing themselves a minority status in 2012. If we get enough Ds in, we will have a supermajority to override whatever Scott Mubarak vetoes.

And 8 R Senators are up for re-election in 2012, if they arfen't recalled first.

This state is hot right now. The Turning Point has been crossed.

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damntexdem

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Fri Feb-18-11 12:23 PM
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9. Well, first, the GOP scum need to win, to destroy them.

That fight is still going on.

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