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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 04:37 PM
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Joe Klein: You always knew he was an asshole: Wisconsin: The Hemlock Revolution

Revolutions everywhere--in the middle east, in the middle west. But there is a difference: in the middle east, the protesters are marching for democracy; in the middle west, they're protesting against it. I mean, Isn't it, well, a bit ironic that the protesters in Madison, blocking the state senate chamber, are chanting "Freedom, Democracy, Union" while trying to prevent a vote? Isn't it ironic that the Democratic Senators have fled the democratic process? Isn't it interesting that some of those who--rightly--protest the assorted Republican efforts to stymie majority rule in the U.S. Senate are celebrating the Democratic efforts to stymie the same in the Wisconsin Senate?

An election was held in Wisconsin last November. The Republicans won. In a democracy, there are consequences to elections and no one, not even the public employees unions, are exempt from that. There are no guarantees that labor contracts, including contracts governing the most basic rights of unions, can't be renegotiated, or terminated for that matter. We hold elections to decide those basic parameters. And it seems to me that Governor Scott Walker's basic requests are modest ones--asking public employees to contribute more to their pension and health care plans, though still far less than most private sector employees do. He is also trying to limit the unions' abilities to negotiate work rules--and this is crucial when it comes to the more efficient operation of government in a difficult time. When I covered local government in New York 30 years ago, the school janitors (then paid a robust $60,000 plus per year) had negotiated the "right" to mop the cafeteria floors only once a week. And we all know about the near-impossibility of getting criminal and morally questionable--to say nothing of less than competent--teachers fired. The negotiation of such contracts were acts of collusion rather than of mediation. Government officials were, in effect, bribing their most activist constituents.

Public employees unions are an interesting hybrid. Industrial unions are organized against the might and greed of ownership. Public employees unions are organized against the might and greed...of the public? Despite their questionable provenance, public unions can serve an important social justice role, guaranteeing that a great many underpaid workers--school bus drivers, janitors (outside of New York City), home health care workers--won't be too severely underpaid. That role will be kept intact in Wisconsin. In any given negotiation, I'm rooting for the union to win the highest base rates of pay possible...and for management to win the least restrictive work rules and guidelines governing how much truly creative public employees can be paid.


Read more: http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2011/02/18/wisconsin-the-hemlock-revolution/#ixzz1ELgGREFF
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 04:42 PM
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1. No thanks. I don't want to read more.
I just spent about 45 minutes composing an email to a local asshat newspaper editor who made many of the same sweeping generalizations and bogus assertions. Yuck.
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 04:44 PM
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2. What a load of crap.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 04:46 PM
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3. Hmm adjusting contracts requires destroying unions. Yeah Joe you get it.
Pushing the masters' message.
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 04:47 PM
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4. In other words: contracts mean nothing. Got it. Now lecture me on democracy.
Logic-deficient.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 04:47 PM
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5. so according to klein, a president could outlaw unions tomorrow?
Edited on Fri Feb-18-11 04:48 PM by spanone
just terminate them?

'There are no guarantees that labor contracts, including contracts governing the most basic rights of unions, can't be renegotiated, or terminated for that matter.'
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