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WingDinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 05:23 PM
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Right Wing is screwed, and they know it.
Edited on Fri Feb-18-11 05:30 PM by WingDinger
All the winger pundits are now conveying a likely scenario where Obama baits the wingers into doing a black mass, doing cannibalism of americans. Shutting down the checks and all gov obligations. They look like ghouls, we wag fingers and say, oh, how deranged. Folks, my predictions here and abroad, of the death of the GOP, are not far off. They will attempt to blend into the Tea Party, for relevance, but they are toast.

Hubris can not go on forever. Their shilling obviously for the rich, is seen, even by their own. The middle east is on fire, fascism is on the march. Food and water insecurity are right next door. Even the less than seriously political are starting to see the whole picture. I wanted to live long enough to see the GOP killed, and now it is here.

We need to start planning our Cairo parties. stick a pitchfork in them, they are done.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 05:26 PM
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1. Not as long as the playing field is not level.
And as long as they control so much of the media messaging.

This isn't anywhere NEAR over, unfortunately.
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WingDinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 05:28 PM
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4. There is a point where all the money in the world wont buy you good press.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 06:24 PM
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10. One would hope.
EVERYTHING has a weakness. Even Superman.

But it sure looks as though the infrastructure the bad guys started building after Goldwater - with an eye toward a cultural takeover that would reverse every gain that's been made on behalf of anyone who isn't a multi-millionaire - is near perfect completion. Sometimes, though, it looks to me like they're about to close the circle. They've got dozens of well-funded think tanks and institutes and foundations, even branching out into universities and law schools (to teach THEIR brand of extremist world-view in all its possible practical applications). The funding keeps gushing and gushing, and these things are spreading and multiplying and metastasizing like cancer cells. They even have their own frickin cable NETWORK forcryingoutloud. And they have enough money to rig cable penetration, lobbying and sweet-talking cable operators to put Pox Noise on the basic package and exile more progressive outlets to more expensive or premium packages. They have about a HALF-CENTURY HEAD START. They're VERY well dug-in and established, to the point where all the seeds they planted 30 and 40 and 45 years ago and 50 years ago are now bearing lots and lots of prime and well-fertilized fruit.

We're so far behind in building anything comparable that I don't know if it's possible to catch up. Especially when a parallel campaign has been waged for at least that long a time to dumb down our kids, mix religion with science, denounce and degrade science and objectivity and historical fact, rewrite the text books, cut teacher pay AND teacher jobs, knock the baseboards out from under union clout that provides part of the safety net, under-fund and close schools.

And there's the overall dumbing down of the population when you narrow the media message so only one side gets out consistently and to the largest general audience over a long span of time - a factor of YEARS now. People will start to believe anything they're told again and again and again and again and again and again and again, especially when no room or time is made for any opposing message to be presented. And factor everything that the Citizens United ruling means to rigging the game and putting a heavy thumb on one side of the scale in election politics.

Short of wholesale revolution and Cairo-size crowds for Cairo-length days, I find myself not always as hopeful as I'd like to be. I STILL can't figure out why wealthy liberals and George Soros-type folks didn't go balls-out to buy radio stations back in the 80s after broadcasting was first deregulated and this corporate buying orgy went on. We could have a progressive radio network put together of hundreds of stations instead of 50 or 60.

I get so discouraged sometimes. Yeah, there are Davids out there amidst all the Goliaths, but the koch brothers and others like them are some dangerously large Goliaths if you ask me. There's always a weakness. I hope we find theirs before they effectively exploit ours.


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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 07:06 PM
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13. Citizens United + fOX nEWS may have changed that
OX will always be good press for these people


Combined with all the advertising billionaires can buy on the other networks I don't think they will have to much trouble getting their message out
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 06:03 PM
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8. Yeah but we can level the field by starting to make the.....
robbers barons very uncomfortable. They got very touchy here in CT when people started picketing their homes over bonuses during the collapse.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 05:27 PM
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2. Yeah but . . .
You presuppose that they won't fight back and that they don't have other weapons -- like lots and lots of money -- to bring to the fight.

As the vat-grown emergence of the teabaggers has proved, the 'Licans don't give up. They were repudiated in 2006 and 2008, and here they are again, fighting like bandicoots, and capturing the hearts and minds of the bower-bird media.

It ain't over 'til it's over.
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 05:27 PM
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3. Not yet they're not and until then.......
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Kceres Donating Member (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 05:33 PM
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5. I don't know if I agree with you but I sure do hope you're right.
Oops, I mean correct.
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Chimichurri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 05:44 PM
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6. I thought the same thing when the Supreme Court stopped the reount and
installed George Bush as president
when they determined the Iraq war was a lie
when they passed the Patriot Act which was an assault on all of our civil liberties
when we found out we were torturing in Abu Graib
when they were tapping phone lines without a warrant
when the stock market crashed
when no one in Wall Street was held accountable for criminally taking down our economy
when the banks started foreclosing on people who never missed a payment
when instead of slowing down, they amped up the enormous tax incentives to outsource our jobs
none of these made anyone spring into action. WI is an anomoly

I'm sorry but I've been waiting for over 10 years and we have exponentially gone down this very precarious road at an alarming speed. Busting the remaiing 11% of the population who belong to a union is almost the final nail in the middle class coffin. This is just a reality - I wish it weren't so
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 05:59 PM
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7. I disagree, we are now having the fight they want to have
They want to go after unions and are happy to fight over it in public.


They want to go after social security and medicare and are happy to fight over it in public.


They are happy to say that they are defending the rich (who they call job creators) in public with all the world watching.


They are not done, not by a long shot. We are fighting on their terms. That doesn't mean I am convinced they will win but it does mean that I am not yet convinced they will lose.
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WingDinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 06:08 PM
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9. Dont throw us into the briar patch. Defend our core programs historically? Coming right up!
Free PR to the moon? Broad span thinking, and how it progressed the nation. How all that we puff our chests about our nation was done by liberals? Bring it on.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 07:02 PM
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11. I sincerely hope you are right but demonizing groups during times
of economic hardship has worked in the past.


Most people are to busy dealing with kitchen table issues to pay attention to anything more than bumper stickers
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Mojeoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 07:24 PM
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15. "Born and Raised in the Briar Patch!" Bring it ON!!!
Hey Union Busters! Your Days of degrading working Americans are numbered!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 07:04 PM
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12. they own the media. lock. stock. barrel.
the media is more powerful than political parties
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 07:16 PM
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14. Wealth always has power.
We have always been at war with Oceania...
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