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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:20 AM
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Libyan Revolution Tweets, Day 4, Part 2
Libyan Revolution Tweets, Day 4, Part 2

Previous threads from today: Part 1


Occasionally, since the people I follow cover Bahrain, Yemen and Jordan also, if I see something really important about those countries, I'll post it here but I plan to mostly focus on Libya because they're having the hardest time getting the word out and Qaddafi's brutality is more systematic and I believe the scale exceeds the brutality in the other country.

They're also the country with the most propagandists on Twitter.

To make sure the Army doesn't swing the revolution to the people, Qaddafi has brought in thousands of mercenaries from Pakistan, Bangladesh and other North African coutries, specifically Chad. There's a Facebook video of a captured mercenary from Chad http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=103697256377254&oid=179449562095105 (Youtube link here) Their confessions are that they've been offered between $12,000 - $30,000 each.

AlanFisher Alan Fisher
by najeebk
At least 104 people killed in #Libya since anti-government protests erupted on Wednesday, the campaign group Human Rights Watch says.
3 hours ago

A conservative estimate, based on reports, is that the figure is over 500 already.

Libya protests: 'Terror and bribery are blunt tools now'
Author Hisham Matar pleads with Muammar Gaddafi to hold his troops back

Hisham Matar
guardian.co.uk, Friday 18 February 2011 20.50 GMT

...

The regime became nervous, promising students a large number of generous scholarships abroad. Then it vowed to increase salaries.

...

On the 16th, a day before the planned protests, Libyan's could no longer wait. They went out in Benghazi. There was a palpable fear that the hot-blooded second city was going it alone, that the few thousand protesters were lambs going to slaughter. Their courage seemed unimaginable.

Late that night one of the Benghazi protestors posted a video on YouTube. He looked tired. His voice was hoarse.

"To my brothers in Tripoli," he said, "we can't do this alone."

...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/global/2011/feb/18/libya-protest-hisham-matar-comment


MAP of Protests across the Middle East



Please rec if you read these so I know if the effort here is worth it.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:25 AM
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1. BREAKING: Birka Barracks has fallen. Defeated mercenaries trying to get to airport w\ their weapons
Edited on Sun Feb-20-11 12:04 PM by Catherina
ShababLibya LibyanYouthMovement
BREAKING: from benghazi take note BREAKING #Libya #Feb17
10 minutes ago

ShababLibya LibyanYouthMovement
i am on the phone to benghazi now #Libya #Feb17 please take note BREAKING
10 minutes ago

ShababLibya LibyanYouthMovement
Confirmed: BIRKA barracks has now fallen, conformation birka barracks nowo fallen they have asked benghazi if they can leave peacefully
8 minutes ago

ShababLibya LibyanYouthMovement
Birka barracks have sent a text to all benghazi and asked them in the area if they can leave to buatni near airport, and take weapons #Libya
7 minutes ago

ShababLibya LibyanYouthMovement
Birka barracks fallen: benghazi have refused to let them leave towards airport without a fight #Libya #Feb17 they asked to leave confirmed
7 minutes ago

ShababLibya LibyanYouthMovement
just received a call from birka area, barracks fallen and the youth are not letting them leave without a fight #Libya #Feb17
6 minutes ago


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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:25 AM
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3. Confirmed: benghazi now free, with surrender of birka barracks moments ago
ShababLibya LibyanYouthMovement
Confirmed: benghazi now free, with surrender of birka barracks moments ago but misrata now hearing gun fire #Libya #Feb17
30 seconds ago
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:27 AM
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5. Live stream here
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:41 AM
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9. flooding in from more contacts now, barracks in birka has fallen & trying 2 get out w\ their weapons
ShababLibya LibyanYouthMovement
flooding in from more and more contacts now, the barracks in birka has fallen and trying to get out with their weapons #Libya #Feb17
3 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:02 PM
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24. Al saika brigade 236 now in control of benghazi ppl
ShababLibya LibyanYouthMovement
by sahincandas
Al saika brigade 236 now in control of benghazi joint with the people, sorry i forgot form the call the officer incharge, #Libya #Feb17
6 minutes ago
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:03 PM
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25. 'Benghazi is now not only free, but it is free and armed'

ShababLibya LibyanYouthMovement
by fals6eeneh
Confirmed from many calls now, 'Benghazi is now not only free, but it is free and armed' #Libya #Feb17
11 minutes ago
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:06 PM
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27. al saika brigade marched in and helped the ppl, mercenaries in birka barracks 'fled like rats'
ShababLibya LibyanYouthMovement
by libyanmaddog
al saika brigade marched in and helped the people and the mercenaries in birka barracks 'fled like rats' #Libya #Feb17 CONFIRMED
13 minutes ago



Catch em and hang em.


al saika brigade is a military brigade that refused to fire on protesters. Several soldiers, one report says as many as 200, were shot for refusing.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:08 PM
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31. protesters crashed car bomb into wall of military camp in Benghazi to breach wall
HalaGorani Hala Gorani
by RickTVnet
RT @iDeskCNN Eyewitnesses tell CNN protesters crashed car bomb into wall of military camp in Benghazi, #Libya attempting to breach the wall.
9 minutes ago




acarvin Andy Carvin
Wow if true RT @gfry: @acarvin That's new: TRANSLATED The rebels are preparing booby-trapped cars and use them on military compounds #Libya
6 minutes ago
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Soral Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:15 PM
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35. THANK YOU FOR TAKING THIS OVER FOR ME
I was trying to do with Libya what you did for Egypt, and I couldn't gather the attention you get, and as much info.

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU.

I tried to do this everyday for the last week since it started, but I got no one to notice
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:20 PM
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41. I deeply know that feeling, Soral! I could say much more, but what's the use.
"Liberals" are often quite shallow.

Thank you for your efforts! I was too sick to be here, or I would have let you know it was appreciated!
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:21 PM
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43. Really? I'm horrified and sorry!
Links please? We need to collate these somehow.

This is earth-shattering, earth-changing stuff. You only need to look at the blanched faces of Western govt leaders to realize that.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:56 PM
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72. Update from #Libya source: celebrations can be heard near Fatheel Camp, Benghazi
monaeltahawy Mona Eltahawy
by franki_kuka
Update from #Libya source: celebrations can be heard near Fatheel Camp. #Benghazi #Libya
11 minutes ago
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:25 AM
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2. City of Misratah is protesting. EVERYONE is in the streets.
ShababLibya LibyanYouthMovement
BREAKING CONFIRMED: City of Misratah is protesting. EVERYONE is in the streets. #feb17 #gaddaficrimes #libya
5 minutes ago
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:26 AM
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4. heavy guns being used now in Musrata city, really a massacre world.what is up, have u gone deaf?
FreeLibyanman FreeLibyan
by ShababLibya
heavy guns r being used now in #Musrata city,,, That really massacre world...what is up with you..have u gone deaf..HELP HELP
3 minutes ago
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:30 AM
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6. 50,000+ protesters in Zawiyah marching toward Tripoli to the palace of dictator
Edited on Sun Feb-20-11 11:32 AM by Catherina
Jnoubiyeh Sarah Abdallah
Over 50,000 protesters in the city of #Zawiyah are marching toward the capital of #Tripoli to the palace of dictator #Gaddafi. #Feb17 #Libya
55 seconds ago



Their previous feat was burning down his house in Zawia

lauratrafach laura iglesias
by BlackprinceXYY
BREAKING CONFIRMED: Protestors in Zawia has burned down Gaddafi's house and now heading towards Tripoli. #feb17 #libya #feb20 #feb12 #maroc
18 minutes ago
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northoftheborder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:35 AM
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7. My God, this sounds terrible. Can't tell who is predominating, but a great price is being paid.
Sounds like a general civil war. Do the people have weapons?
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:43 AM
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10. Some. From captured police and Army barracks and from captured mercenaries
Edited on Sun Feb-20-11 12:03 PM by Catherina
They even have some of the anti aircraft weapons that were fired upon them now. Machine guns, you name it.

They even captured tanks and are driving around in them.

I think it's more of a civil war against one man and his security apparatus. How many supporters can someone like Qaddafi have other than the business elite?
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:38 AM
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8.  all the EU cares abt is stopping migration. Malmström "pleased to announce new Frontex op" today

asteris Asteris Masouras
Then again, all the EU cares abt is stopping migration. Malmström "pleased to announce new Frontex op" today http://is.gd/95nC2W #Libya
2 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply


Statement by Commissioner Malmström announcing the launch of the Frontex operation “Hermes” in Italy as of 20 February 2011
Reference: MEMO/11/98 Date: 20/02/2011
HTML: EN
PDF: EN
DOC: EN

Statement by Commissioner Malmström announcing the launch of the Frontex operation “Hermes” in Italy as of 20 February 2011

“I am pleased to announce that as of today the Frontex mission “Hermes” will officially be deployed to assist the Italian authorities in managing the inflow of migrants from North Africa, particularly arrivals from Tunisia, on the island of Lampedusa.

The mission is part of a broader framework of measures by the European Commission to manage these exceptional migratory flows. Other actions include cooperation with Tunisian authorities, identification of financial emergency envelopes and assistance by the European Police Office (Europol).

I also welcome the timely discussion of ministers of Foreign affairs about comprehensive EU assistance to Tunisia expected on Monday. The Tunisian people are demanding democracy as well as economic and social development. Tackling these issues would decrease irregular immigration.

As part of the Hermes mission, experts from participating Member States will be deployed along with aerial and naval support to assist the Italian authorities. Human and technical resources could be increased according to future needs.

On the basis of the Operational Plan that was agreed with the Italian authorities, Frontex experts will assist in debriefing and interviewing migrants. Special attention is given to identifying those who may be in need of international protection. Frontex will also give aerial and naval support for border surveillance.

The mission is being launched four days after receiving the official request from the Italian authorities. This is a clear signal of European solidarity between Member States and a concrete proof of the European Commission’s commitment to assisting Italy in this difficult situation.”

http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleasesAction.do?reference=MEMO/11/98&format=HTML&aged=0&language=EN&guiLanguage=en

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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:45 AM
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12. Qaddafi WARNED EU he won't cooperate w\ fight against illegal immigration. Look who's warning whom!
Dima_Khatib Dima Khatib أنا ديمة
by shmpOngO
Qaddafi WARNED European Union he would not cooperate with fight against illegal immigration. Look who is warning whom? #libya #feb17 #eu
4 minutes ago


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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:48 AM
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14. AFP: Libya warns EU it will "suspend cooperation" in fight against illegal immigration if EU doesn't
Dima_Khatib Dima Khatib أنا ديمة
by Gheblawi
AFP: #Libya warns EU it will "suspend cooperation" in fight against illegal immigration if EU doesn't stop encouraging demonstrations #feb17
15 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply


The EU is encouraging demonstrations while you wave those lollipop oil barrels in their faces? Qaddafi, as if we needed proof you've lost your flippin' mind.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:43 AM
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11. Activist on #AJA: Armed mercenaries are raping women in #Tripoli and #Benghazi
arwasm Arwa Mahmoud
by tayoomolere
Activist on #AJA: Armed mercenaries are raping women in #Tripoli and #Benghazi #libya #feb17
6 minutes ago
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:57 AM
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20. On Aljazeera now: The rapes are planned so that youths and men stay at home and don't go out
iyad_elbaghdadi Iyad El-Baghdadi
by theimp
On Aljazeera now: The rapes are planned so that youths and men stay at home and don't go out #Feb17 #Libya
20 minutes ago
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:46 AM
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13. Islamic scholar Al-Gharyani calls upon every able-bodied Libyan to rebel against Gaddafi
iyad_elbaghdadi Iyad El-Baghdadi
by ToneyBrooks
Islamic scholar Al-Gharyani calls upon every able-bodied Libyan to rebel against #Gaddafi #Feb17 #Libya
16 minutes ago
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:49 AM
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15. My God!
Edited on Sun Feb-20-11 11:54 AM by drm604
Does that monster Qaddafi really believe that he can make things go back to where they were before? The people are obviously desperate and beyond fear at this point. Why would he even want to remain in control of a populace that will fight him every step of the way from here on? Why doesn't the man seek asylum in some other country and bow out?

This is the ultimate in egoism, which I guess is what we should expect from this maniac.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:57 AM
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19. Agreed. And these elites are very sick people. n/t
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:50 AM
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16. So sad, all the AJA morgue shots show young men. It's how our old men dictators stay in power, by su
majda72 majda72
So sad, all the AJA morgue shots of #Libya show young men. It's how our old men dictators stay in power, by suffocating and killing youth.
9 minutes ago
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:53 AM
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17. MERCENARY DOCS SEIZED IN #LIBYA (This one from Guinea)
Edited on Sun Feb-20-11 11:54 AM by Catherina
sunnkaa sunnkaa
by SkyPolly
@SkyPolly MERCENARY DOCS SEIZED IN #LIBYA http://www.flickr.com/photos/a7fadhomar/5461022505/in/photostream/
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:55 AM
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18. Another seized mercenary ID doc

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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:00 PM
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22. Paid By #Gaddafi: African mercenaries from Chad, #Tunisia & Nigeria target #Libyans with machine gun

Jnoubiyeh Sarah Abdallah
by Gawabaty
Paid By #Gaddafi: African mercenaries from Chad, #Tunisia & Nigeria target #Libyans with machine guns & anti-aircraft weapons. #Feb17 #Libya
11 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:59 AM
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21. Who Could Verify These Names Of Tam Oil Offshore Oilinvest NV?
Barack_On_Blast Onyx Powers
RT @sablikatriumph @monaeltahawy Who Could Verify These Names Of Tam Oil Offshore Oilinvest NV? http://bit.ly/hB6aIp #Libya #17feb #Gadaffi
17 minutes ago




Curaçao Commercial Register
Excerpt from the Commercial Register
Registration number: 52493 (0)
Date: February 20, 2011 Time: 1:10:31 PM
In the Commercial Register of the Curaçao Chamber of Commerce & Industry is registered under number 52493: Oilinvest (Curaçao) N.V.

Trade name Oilinvest (Curaçao) N.V.
Legal form Limited Liability Company
Official company name Oilinvest (Curaçao) N.V.
Statutory seat Curaçao
Date of incorporation December 18, 1989
Date established December 18, 1989
Authorized capital U.S.A. Dollar 30,000.00
Issued capital U.S.A. Dollar 30,000.00
Paid up capital U.S.A. Dollar 30,000.00
Fiscal year The fiscal year is equal to the calendar year
Address Pietermaai 123
Country Curaçao
Correspondence address (same as above)
Object Holding Company(8146), Investment Company(8135)
Official(s)
1
Function Statutory director
Title description Chairman of the Board of Directors
Name Mustafa Mohamed Zarti
Address Ben Ashor
Tripoli
Country Libyan Arab Jamahiriya
Date of birth March 29, 1970
Country of birth Libyan Arab Jamahiriya
Nationality Libyan
2
Function Statutory director
Name Abdulmagid Elshah
Address El Noufleen
Tripoli
Country Libyan Arab Jamahiriya
Date of birth July 18, 1953
Place of birth Tripoli
Country of birth Libyan Arab Jamahiriya
Nationality Libyan
3
Function Statutory director
Name Fuad Krekshi
Address 19 the Grange Virgina park
Virginia Water, Surrey GU25 4ST
Country United Kingdom
Date of birth May 17, 1952
Place of birth Tripoli
Country of birth Libyan Arab Jamahiriya
Nationality Libyan
4
Function Statutory director
Name Isam Said Abdulla Zanati
Address Le Floridian Palace 21 Boulevard du Larvotto
MC 98000
Country Monaco
Date of birth December 5, 1966
Place of birth Assa
Country of birth Libyan Arab Jamahiriya
Nationality Libyan
5
Function Statutory director
Name Mahmud Abdulla K. Naas
Address El Ghader St. No. 9
Benghazi
Country Libyan Arab Jamahiriya
Date of birth July 9, 1950
Place of birth Faideya
Nationality Libyan
6
Function Statutory director
Name Mohamed El Shawish
Address Al Wahda Tower Al Salam Street
Abu Dhabi
Country United Arab Emirates
Date of birth December 10, 1954
Place of birth Tripoli
Country of birth Libyan Arab Jamahiriya
Nationality Libyan
7
Function Statutory director
Name Salem Bengharbia
Address 13 Hafas Benomar st.,
Benghazi
Country Libyan Arab Jamahiriya
Place of birth Musrata
Country of birth Libyan Arab Jamahiriya
Nationality Libyan
8
Function Proxy holder
Title description Local Representative
Name N.V. Interpark
Address Pietermaai 123
Country Curaçao
Registration number official 14651
9
Function Proxy holder
Title description Proxyholder of the Board of Directors
Name Isam Said Abdulla Zanati
Address Le Floridian Palace 21 Boulevard du Larvotto
MC 98000
Country Monaco
Date of birth December 5, 1966
Place of birth Assa
Country of birth Libyan Arab Jamahiriya
Nationality Libyan
Source: Registry-information Internet. This document is not an excerpt in accordance with article 11 paragraph 2 of the Trade Ordinance (O.G. 2009 no. 51)

http://www.curacao-chamber.an/info/registry/excerpt.asp?mode=edit&companyid=52493&establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:08 PM
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30. Do you understand what exactly it is that they want verified?
I'm pretty good at internet sleuthing, but I don't understand what they're looking for. Do they just want to know if that document is official and legitimate or what?
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:40 PM
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61. I think the names to start unravelling the complicity for trials later. Not sure n/t
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 01:09 PM
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82. I found some interesting stuff, nothing that's not public.
Edited on Sun Feb-20-11 01:12 PM by drm604
According to Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamoil
Tamoil is the trading name of the Oilinvest (Netherlands) B.V. Group, a European based downstream oil group.

The Tamoil Group, which was purchased by Libyan state entities in the late 1980s, is involved in supplying, trading, refining and selling petroleum products.

History

The Tamoil Group first established refining and retail operations in Italy.


"Tamoil" is the trading name for "OilInvest" (the company named in that document). It's registered in Curaçao which appears to be a tax haven for corpoations.

http://www.curacao-chamber.an/info/3a_1.html

The Italy connection makes me wonder about Qaddafi and his buddy Berlusconi.

Something else interesting: Here's a 2007 BBC News article "Libya's Tamoil bought by US firm"

Los Angeles-based private equity firm Colony Capital is buying the Libyan oil company Tamoil in a deal valuing it at 4bn euros ($5.4bn; £2.7bn).

Tamoil owns more than 3,000 service stations in Europe, mainly located in Italy, as well as oil refineries in Italy, Switzerland, Spain and Germany.

The Libyan government will keep a 35% stake in the company

...

Colony Capital was founded in 1991 by the billionaire Thomas Barrack and owns a number of hotels and casinos, and also is a member of the consortium that owns Paris St Germain football club.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6726017.stm

On Edit: This page would seem to confirm the purchase by Colony Capitol.
http://sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Colony_Capital

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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 01:21 PM
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86. Thanks! Sent that to them and asked what they're looking for.
Edited on Sun Feb-20-11 01:21 PM by Catherina
Colony Capitol? That's a very nasty man.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 01:46 PM
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88. we got the names but they need to be identified. Thanks for the info

sablikatriumph sablikatriumph
@
@Catherina_Guate well we got the names but they need to be identified. Thanks for the info
18 minutes ago
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 02:33 PM
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93.  okay I see, the statutory directors could be fronts too. But Tam Oil is from #Libya
sablikatriumph sablikatriumph
@
@Catherina_Guate okay I see, the statutory directors could be fronts too. But Tam Oil is from #Libya
3 minutes ago
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 03:31 PM
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96. Sorry.
I did some Googling but those kinds of names can be hard to track down. There are different spellings or they're in a different order sometimes. I can't tell one Mustafa from another, or from a Mustapha for that matter. I can be such a stupid American sometimes. :(
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:01 PM
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23. still getting reports of gunfire in Misrata, but also reports of towns toppling all over Libya, nee
ShababLibya LibyanYouthMovement
by RRowleyTucson
we need more sources from Misrata, still getting reports of gunfire there, but also reports of towns toppling all over #Libya, need sources
4 minutes ago
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:04 PM
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26. K&R & Bookmarked. Thanks for all your hard work, Catherina.
If I come across any tweets coming in I'll post them here, too.

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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:07 PM
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28. Thanks. It's HOT and BOILING right now. n/t
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:08 PM
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29. Wrong place n/t
Edited on Sun Feb-20-11 12:08 PM by Catherina
HalaGorani Hala Gorani
by RickTVnet
RT @iDeskCNN Eyewitnesses tell CNN protesters crashed car bomb into wall of military camp in Benghazi, #Libya attempting to breach the wall.
9 minutes ago




acarvin Andy Carvin
Wow if true RT @gfry: @acarvin That's new: TRANSLATED The rebels are preparing booby-trapped cars and use them on military compounds #Libya
6 minutes ago
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:10 PM
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32. British FM William Hague spoke on the phone to son of Qaddafi
Dima_Khatib Dima Khatib أنا ديمة
by shaistaAziz
Reuters: British FM William Hague spoke on the phone to son of Qaddafi: Saif al-Islam #libya #feb17
2 minutes ago

Planning an escape route for your business partners yet?
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:14 PM
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34. Mercenaries still shooting at unarmed civilians aggressively. Machine guns
Libyayalibya Libyan Kid
by AlbertoTroccoli
Please Re tweet: Mercenaries still shooting at unarmed civilians aggressively. Please help. Free #libya. Machine guns being used against us
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:16 PM
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36. BREAKING CONFIRMED: ABDULLAH SANNUSI HAS BEEN ARRESTED. BENGHAZI IS FREE AND ARMED.

ShababLibya LibyanYouthMovement
by Gawabaty
BREAKING CONFIRMED: ABDULLAH SANNUSI HAS BEEN ARRESTED. BENGHAZI IS FREE AND ARMED. #feb17 #gaddaficcrimes #libya
25 minutes ago


See this post for ABDULLAH SANNUSI: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=printer_friendly&forum=439&topic_id=462516&mesg_id=462944
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:39 PM
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60.  Military Intelligence Director ABDULLAH SANNUSI ARRESTED
TwiddleEastNews Twiddle East News
Breaking News #Libya Military Intelligence Director has been ARRESTED
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:42 PM
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63. get a hold of the people with Abdulla Senousi tell them not to kill him without getting answers 1st
N_Benghazi .
@ShababLibya Whoever can get a hold of the people with Abdulla Senousi tell them not to kill him without getting answers first #libya
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 01:01 PM
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77. word on the street is abdalla sanussi but can not confirm with out a reliable source or pic
ShababLibya LibyanYouthMovement
word on the street is abdalla sanussi but on these issues we can not confirm with out a reliable source or pic #Libya #Feb17
48 minutes ago
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:16 PM
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37. Celebrations in front of Al Jalaa hospital in #Benghazi, the army has sided with peoples.
abdu Abdurahman Warsame
by 1marimo
Celebrations in front of Al Jalaa hospital in #Benghazi, the army has sided with peoples. This is from a doctor in Benghazi. #Libya
21 minutes ago
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:18 PM
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39. AJE reporting. Witness a Doctor: Most of Libyan army has gone over to pro democracy side
Justiceandtruth Truth And Justice
AJE reporting. Witness a Doctor: Most of Libyan army has gone over to pro democracy side #Libya
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:38 PM
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59. ~~totally in tears~~
I fully expected to log in today and hear of a complete massacre.

Instead, there seems to be a victory building.

THESE are the people I wish I could live around!

I'm sooo sick of liberal wimps!

ALL POWER TO THE LIBYAN PEOPLE!!!
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:17 PM
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38. my wife said, 'Think of ur daughters.' Told her, 'That’s exactly why I'm going 2 demonstrate.’
monaeltahawy Mona Eltahawy
by qglenda
"As I was leaving house this morning my wife said, 'Think of ur daughters.' Told her, 'That’s exactly why I'm going 2 demonstrate.’" #Libya
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:24 PM
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46. I'm following Mona Eltahawy, too
She's posting about every 30 seconds.


You're right this is really HOT and BOLING.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 01:05 PM
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79. Mona is droppable at this point. She admitted yesterday
she's mostly rewording and retweeting older stuff to her followers. I have to ignore most of her stuff because it was covered in yesterday's threads and confuses the chronological picture. I think Mona's either in Egypt or NYC?

I like @ShababLibya from the LibyanYouthMovement as one of the best sources there. A mini command central
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 02:05 PM
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90. @ShababLibya is another one I'm following
Are we following each other, BTW?

I'm @DUTurborama. What's your handle on there?

I'm just about to crash, it's nearly dawn here but I'll be keeping an eye out for your updates and will K&R when poss..
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 02:21 PM
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91. Mine?
@Catherina_Guate
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:20 PM
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40. that Austrian military plane rumour is confirmed but plane is to evacuate Austrians
Tripolitanian Libyan
by mubaraketganen
Ok so that Austrian military plane rumour that I heard about is confirmed, except the plane is to evacuate Austrians from #Libya
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Soral Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:20 PM
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42. Here are older threads before Catherina took over.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:23 PM
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45. Thank you. I didn't see those
It's terrible how important stuff can get easily buried. I was trying not to do this and only started on Day 3 but I can't ignore it. This stuff deserves whatever hard work it takes to capture.
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Soral Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:23 PM
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44. REAKING: Algerian military planes landing in Tripoli now. Unconfirmed as to why
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:27 PM
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47. Military backup & supplies per previous tweets. Sick stuff n/t
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Soral Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:31 PM
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51. it came from @ShababLibya and @FreedomNow2011
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:32 PM
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54. Thanks. Important to know the source. Good ones n/t
Edited on Sun Feb-20-11 12:32 PM by Catherina
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:58 PM
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73. Mercenaries in #Libya are also from #Algeria and #Tunisia, confirmed sources
freelibyanyouth Shabab Libya
by jgg_bw
Mercenaries in #Libya are also from #Algeria and #Tunisia, confirmed sources say.
37 minutes ago
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:29 PM
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48. hague is obviously high. "dialogue?" UK's Hague urges #Libya 2 embrace dialogue, reform.
piggypotamus enter your real name
hague is obviously high. "dialogue?" RT @AlArabiya_Eng: UK's Hague urges #Libya 2 embrace dialogue, reform. http://goo.gl/UUYHh #Libya
13 minutes ago

Not high. Complicit.

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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:30 PM
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49. More and more reports of a major commandos and army uprising/coup within the Libyan army.
oli2be oli2be
by Offred1
More and more reports of a major commandos and army uprising/coup within the Libyan army. /@ChangeInLibya #Libya
51 minutes ago
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:47 PM
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66. Thank the goddess! This is what is needed!
How are you holding up, Catherina? :loveya:
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Iterate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:30 PM
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50.  A roundup of world online headlines at 17:00 GMT
Getting caught up by using Google News reveals more than I expected. It appears the major news outlets are 12-36 hours behind DU, at best.

Even within the past two hours the two dozen or so posted stories are oft repeated ones that were accurate only for a few hours and days ago. Two examples:
Libyan dead tops 100 as unrest escalates - euronews - 2 hours ago
Report Claims Libya Protest Deaths Hit 200 - Sky News - Alex Rossi, Katie Cassidy - ‎2 hours ago‎

Others are simply clueless, provincial, or narrowly self-interested, such as these:

Libya Unrest Appears to Grow - Wall Street Journal FEBRUARY 20, 2011, 10:35 A.M. ET
Indians in Libya safe: Government Hindustan Times - 52 minutes ago
Libya unrest: Britons in east Libya 'helped to safety' BBC News - ‎4 minutes ago
‎Britain's alliance with Libya turns sour as Gaddafi cracks down The Guardian 19.40 GMT
Libya protests: More than 100 killed as army fires on unarmed demonstrators The Guardian 11.39 GMT
Libya, Bahrain violence deep US concern-ambassador Reuters Africa - Pedro Nicolaci da Costa, Todd Eastham - ‎1 hour ago‎
Leaders of Libya and Yemen meet protests with deadly force - Los Angeles Times - Borzou Daragahi, Amro Hassan - ‎18 hours ago‎
Spreading protests in Libya hurt Korean firms - Korea Times - Kang Hyun-kyung - ‎6 hours ago‎
Oil Flows, but High Prices Jangle Nerves - New York Times - Steven Erlanger - ‎16 hours ago‎
Libya: US State Department Issues Travel Alert as Protests Inflame - KBOI - ‎1 hour ago‎
Libya 'foils attack on oil wells amid unrest' - Ahram Online - ‎1 hour ago‎
Extremist group hold hostages in restive city: Libya - The Express Tribune - ‎1 hour ago‎
'Islamist extremists' seize hostages - Bangkok Post

Even CNN International misses the mark, though not by as much:
Clashes erupt at Libyan funeral procession, military camp - CNN Wire Staff - Updated 1701 GMT
MSNBC essentially reworked the latest AP release
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:31 PM
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52. Gaddafi determined to stay in Libya,, "He insists on dying on Libyan land,"
Flamengo17 Pepe Gonzalez
@
#dictador & Asesino @oli2be Gaddafi determined to stay in Libya despite unrest http://tinyurl.com/4mgwbwf #Libya
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Gaddafi determined to stay in Libya despite unrest: Report

Cairo, Feb 20 : Neither Muammar Gaddafi nor his family will leave Libya, the Asharq al-Awsat newspaper Sunday quoted sources within the clan as saying, following days of violent protests calling for the long-time leader's removal.

"He insists on dying on Libyan land," the sources said, adding that all members of Gaddafi's family who were living abroad came back to the country last Thursday.

...

http://www.newkerala.com/news/world/fullnews-151555.html


Fulfill his wish. Hang him on Libyan soil.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:33 PM
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55. He's trying the Mubarak plan. Idiot.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:48 PM
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68. Hanging is too humane.
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Soral Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:32 PM
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53. BREAKING CONFIRMED: 15 dead at Al Jala Hospital in Benghazi via @Shabablibya
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:34 PM
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56. After pleading w\ White House about the massacre, they told us to call back Tuesday & hung up
Libyan4life Jeel Ghathub
After pleading with the White House about #Libya and the massacre, they told us to call back Tuesday and hung up. Thank you @BarackObama
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:44 PM
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64. @barackobama the people of Libya need help NOW!! Waiting until Tues is simply unacceptable.
suadaddarrat Suad Addarrat
by bint_benghazi
@barackobama the people of Libya need help NOW!! Waiting until Tues is simply unacceptable. They r dying!! #libya #feb17
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:49 PM
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69. Yup, that is the Obama we have become familiar with.
:nuke:
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 01:10 PM
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83. Do you REALLY think
that the WH, the State department, etc. are on vacation until Tuesday and that they are not following and trying to react to what is happening in Lybia and elsewhere in the region? What somebody may have said when answering a phone is completely meaningless. That Obama! AT least he does not have a ranch to go to!
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 01:18 PM
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85. Thank you so much for your outpouring of concern and care. It is duly noted.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 01:43 PM
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87. I DO care an I AM concerned
why else would I have been in this thread in the first place? And recommending Catherina's threads and thanking her repeatedly? It's just that to assume that the WH is "closed for the Holidays" is just plain silly. Sorry, it is.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 01:49 PM
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89. Yes, it is obvious. Duly noted.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:35 PM
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57. Civilians are arming themselves with RPGs, kalashnikovs, and machetes captured from military bases

sorin Sorin Ionescu
Civilians are arming themselves with RPGs, kalashnikovs, and machetes captured from military bases. http://is.gd/0A7HfA #Libya #Feb17
4 minutes ago
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:38 PM
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58. OMG OMG OMG!!!! Confirmation on @AJArabic African mercenaries did break into homes and rape

Ghada_Othmani Ghada OTHMANI
OMG OMG OMG!!!! Confirmation on @AJArabic now that African mercenaries did break into homes in #Benghazi and rape Libyan women #Feb17 #Libya
38 minutes ago


Of course they did. Watch Hotel Rwanda, Sometimes in April, Blood Diamonds to see what you're dealing with. If you have a stronger stomach, watch documentaries. These are sick, sick people. Hang em.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:41 PM
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62. Ppl are going to Fedeel Barracks and they will be there any moment. and they'll tell us what's going
FreeBenghazi se1ima
Ppl are going to Fedeel Barracks and they will be there any moment. and they'll tell us what's going on exactly #LibyaFreedomStation. #Libya
45 minutes ago
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:46 PM
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65. It was a massacre today in Musrata. (Audio from yesterday)
AliveIn Stories from MENA
by ukpolitik
#Libya It was a massacre today in Musrata. | @Speak2Tweet http://bit.ly/fTofC4 (Feb 19) #feb17
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It was a massacre today in Musrata. | @Speak2Tweet
Audio File: http://bit.ly/hQ4kbI

Time Of Call: 2/19/2011 10:22:00

AUDIO (in Arabic)

انا اسمي خالد من مصراته…انا لاحظت حاجة انكم مش مهتمين بمصراته . مصراته اليوم صار فيها مجزرة. 15 قتيل فيها من الساعة 5 مساء ..من الصبح للساعة 5 مساء 15 قتيل. اليوم صاير فيها مجزرة مصراته. اني لاحظت انكم مقصرين معاها.يا ريت اديرولها راي. اللي صاير هنايا نبوه يوقفوه. خلد من مصراته

I’m Khalid from Musrata… I noticed that you aren’t paying attention to the situation in Musrata. A massacre occurred today in Musrata, almost 15 person was killed today from 5pm. From the morning till 5pm 15 persons were killed. It was a massacre today in Musrata. I noticed that you are ignoring us. I wish that you find a solution. We want what is happening here to stop. Khalid from Musrata, Libya.

Translated by: @s2m2s

http://alive.in/libya/2011/02/19/it-was-a-massacre-today-in-musrata-speak2tweet/?utm_campaign=libyatweet&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitter
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:48 PM
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67. Dutch MPs (Socialist Party) will ask EU president 2 & freeze economic cooperation & condemn violence
EwoutIrrgang Ewout Irrgang
by Grannny63@
@ShababLibya we as Dutch MPs (Socialist Party) will ask EU president Van Rompuy to condemn violence in #Libya & freeze economic cooperation.
25 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply


Capitalists not wanting to freeze economic cooperation I take it?
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:54 PM
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70. women whose children died in protests cheered rather than cried at their funerals very proud of sons
iyad_elbaghdadi Iyad El-Baghdadi
Reports that women whose children died in protests cheered rather than cried at their funerals; very proud of their sons #Benghazi #Libya
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:55 PM
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71. First-ever reports (unconfirmed) that #Gaddafi has left #Libya
iyad_elbaghdadi Iyad El-Baghdadi
by conservtivemom
First-ever reports (unconfirmed) that #Gaddafi has left #Libya #Feb17
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:59 PM
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75. Is he dead yet?
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 01:08 PM
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81. When he is, we'll hear the loud cries of jubilation from here! n/t
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 01:13 PM
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84. I just hope he suffers... and his whole family.
Although there can NEVER be enough suffering, as one person, that he can go through to atone for what he has done.

Yes, that is what has become of my "non-violence".

How are you holding up, Catherina? :loveya:
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 02:23 PM
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92. Good. This kind of stuff gives me energy, drive to help however I can
How are you feeling? Healthwise especially.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:59 PM
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74. CID treating detainees "like animals". Syrian violently beaten as he was caught with a video camera.
LibyanDictator The Dictator
CID treating detainees "like animals". Syrian violently beaten as he was caught with a video camera. #Libya #feb17
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 01:01 PM
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76. Benghazi packed all the city is out, chanting but gunfire heard outside city
ShababLibya LibyanYouthMovement
Benghazi packed all the city is out, outside the courts, of the benghazi chanting but gunfire heard outside city #Libya #Feb17
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 01:02 PM
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78. struggling to get protesters organised in tripoli as #gaddaficrimes people are on a huge crack down
ShababLibya LibyanYouthMovement
struggling to get protesters organised in tripoli as #gaddaficrimes people are on a huge crack down to any of them #tripoli #libya #feb17
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 01:07 PM
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80. Part 3 here
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 02:35 PM
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94. Wrong thread. Delete
Edited on Sun Feb-20-11 02:37 PM by Catherina
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 02:35 PM
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95. Wrong thread. Delete
Edited on Sun Feb-20-11 02:37 PM by Catherina
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