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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 09:06 PM
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How do you interpret this statement in regards to the South's slavery history?
Edited on Sun Feb-20-11 09:06 PM by cynatnite
This was at the Commeration of Davis being sworn in as President of the Confederacy...

Asked about the prominent speeches and documents that described the protection of slavery as the primary cause of secession, Joe Dupree of Mobile, Ala., said the question itself was wrong.

“African slavery is a 4,000-year-old African institution that affected us a couple of hundred years,” he said. “It is, historically, an error.”


From the same article...

But even the politics on Saturday were tied up in a larger sense of grievance, a feeling of being marginalized and willfully misunderstood. Expressions of this feeling led to some rather unexpected analogies, like when Kelley Barrow, a teacher from Georgia, declared that people of Confederate heritage “have been forced to go to the back of the bus.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/21/us/21davis.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss

Is he saying that the South shouldn't be associated with slavery at all?
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 09:08 PM
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1. Since 1492 is more than "a couple of hundred years."
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 09:13 PM
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2. Here's my read on it...
"African's have been enslaving each other for 4000 years, we only enslaved them for a few hundred". I'm not sure what to make of the last part about an "error".

In any case, I'm not 100% sure I would have read it the same way if you didn't say who said it and where, first.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 09:15 PM
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4. I wanted to make sure I kept it in context...
It sounds weird.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 09:27 PM
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11. I understand.
It was an oddly worded statement in any context, but without the context, I think people could interpret it differently.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 09:15 PM
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3. I think it's all about nostalgia for them
It's the America of their dreams:

White Protestants run the show; black people are subordinate and know their place; businessmen (yes businessmen) have all the power; women are to be strictly homemakers or if they are upper class, a plantation mistress.
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npk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 09:18 PM
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6. And it has been ingrained into their way of thinking
for generations.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 09:19 PM
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7. "After all they did it to themselves."
Yes, I read that just TODAY on a local news site in response to an article calling for better minority relations in St. Augustine.

Get me outta here!
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 09:21 PM
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8. I think he's saying
that many were complicit.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 09:23 PM
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10. the question was about secession and slavery being a factor in that
it's like the Wisconsin teachers are being paid more than someone at walmart so why are they protesting ..............
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 09:34 PM
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12. While there was slavery in African countries for a lot of years,
Edited on Sun Feb-20-11 09:35 PM by Jamastiene
pointing out that others did it too doesn't make it "ok" that it happened here too.

It sounds like that is what they are trying to say, but they are wrong to look at it that way. Trying to shift blame is like saying, "Look over there!" then running away. It's practically a playground level tactic.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 09:21 PM
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9. looks like he was trying to avoid answering the question
it's like when people bring up Muslims not having rights in some Islamic country to excuse taking away rights in America.

instead of admitting they support that negative thing they do the "but it's happens there also".
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 09:40 PM
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13. People have been mudering each other for hundreds of thousands of years
Therefore, if I murder someone it's just a mistake that should be overlooked.
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