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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 09:32 PM
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There is no excuse for this double standard (abusive hazers vs gay servicemen)
http://gay.americablog.com/2011/02/serial-abuser-retires-navy-with-full.html

Apparently the gays' only mistake was not abusing up to 90 fellow service members.

This is despicable. While gay and lesbians service members discharged under DADT are often forced to pay back the cost of their training and scholarships, and also run the risk of having their retirement pay docked to the tune of 50%, straight guys who abuse over 90 fellow service members aren't penalized at all.

The abuses allegedly took place in 2005 and 2006. A 2007 command-level investigation, conducted after Toussaint left, documented more than 90 instances of hazing and abuse of junior personnel. Sailors told investigators that, among other things, they were hog-tied to chairs, instructed to act like dogs, ordered to simulate homosexual oral sex on tape, and forced to eat dog biscuits and get inside dirty kennels.

Why? You see, the Navy tells us, you have to look at the entirety of his career, rather than the two years that he was abusing over 90 fellow service members. Here's the Navy's excuse:

A Navy senior chief petty officer censured over hazing and other serious abuses that allegedly took place under his leadership at a military working-dog kennel in Bahrain will retire with an honorable discharge and without a reduction in pay grade, the Navy said Thursday.

"However, when looking at his career in its entirety, I have determined that his conduct did not rise to a level sufficient to warrant retirement in a pay grade less than E-8," the statement said, using the military's abbreviation for Toussaint's pay rate.
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nosmokes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 09:46 PM
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1. Honorable discharge asE-8? MoFo shoulda been courts martialed and reduced
to E-1.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 09:56 PM
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2. Another WTF moment. n/t
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 10:23 PM
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3. Its separation pay not retirement pay and it is for any service member could not rejoin
not just gays. It will also go away when DADT does.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 10:43 PM
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4. the man had no business being permitted to retire at this present rank
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 10:46 PM
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5. How infuriating and demeaning.
Abuse is abuse, frat abuse is no different!
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 11:33 AM
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6. kick
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 11:45 AM
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7. Kick!
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