Where the hell is Obama on the Wisconsin protests?

As unions are under attack by corporate interests with the help of the republican party democrats on the national level are nowhere to be found. Aside from very ambiguous statements there has been no call to action from President Obama and leaders in the democratic party.

This was the statement from President Obama on the situation:



Generally seems like an assault on unions? This is a fucking war against the very people that helped get you elected and you want to be timid in your response? At this point why even bother? Why not just hand the republicans the next election. We all saw how well being timid and constantly giving in to republicans played out in the 2010 elections.

To be fair the DNC has been on the ground providing much of the initial support for these protests. But without a national voice we could very well lose this fight, and so far Obama has refused to step up. Other states are following the lead of Wisconsin and corporate backed pro-tea party groups (all though late) are starting to flood in to these states.

This is not a time to be timid, this is time for real leadership.

good luck with that :rofl:

You'd fit in well with those on that other site

Pelosi tweeted (or something) and Durbin said something (?) a couple of days ago.

Glad to hear that the DNC has been "on the ground", but we need leaders ON THE AIR!

If it weren't for Ed Schultz, this story wouldn't have made it out of Madison.

I would not characterize it as strong support for Wisconsin public employees at all.

Look how hard he's fought for EFCA... oh, wait...

The Bureau of Labor Statistics says there are 103 million workers in private sector jobs, 96 million (93%) are non-union members.

BLS says there are 21 million workers in government jobs, about 8 million (36%) union members.

All those workers vote so it could be 96 million votes versus 8 million votes.

What to do, oh what to do, and still appear as a leader to both groups?

Why not support the rights of all workers, and support strengthening all unions and the ability to unionize. I don't see an either/or in your argument.

without benefits including retirement, etc.

Rarely do local governments go bankrupt and leave former workers in the same condition.

Moreover state governments cannot go bankrupt and I doubt if our federal govt will go bankrupt leaving retirees, stranded.

I wonder how many people who are homeless or near-homeless lost private sector jobs v. any who lost public sector jobs?

I feel he should stay away. At this point, this is a bottom up uprising. If Obama gets further involved, it turns into a Rep/Dem political battle and not a people's battle. The "liberal" media would frame it as "politics as usual".

Other Dems who are perhaps more closely allied with labor/progressive issues COULD and SHOULD respond in solidarity though.

they might have been late to the game but these groups are now starting to finance pro-tea party organizations to flood these states. Pretty sure it will be a story of tea party vs the far left. And since the media has a very short attention span there is only a small window here, it's not long before they move to something else.

they speaking on the floor about WI. I sent an e-mail to the white house and told Obama how disappointed I was in him.

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also helps the Unions? The difference being that historically they have been shrinking, so they collect less money than the corporations do, so Citizens' United helps them less than it helps the corporations.

since those donors are now free to spend as they wish.

paid off in November with the fucking Pugs doing what fucking pugs do.

so if one did not support DEMOCRATS, no matter how imperfect some of them were the repigs are evil spawn from the orifaces of the devil himself compared, just as a reminder to some that forget this. Perhaps some should take a moment alone to ponder that logic.

this is what the Hamshers helped bring about.

enjoy

not the fact that they watered down just about every policy they passed to appease the republicans which lead to huge disapproval of said policy on the part of the american people.

. . . before it became clear which side would prevail.

I don't get his strategy or thinking unless he feels he can win an election in 2012 without organized labor.

does win. He'll be an un-President, whom no one pays any attention to.

that we must move beyond.

Or maybe one of the excesses of the 60s that Reagan mercifully helped us move beyond.

I still can't believe his behavior shocks anyone, after the void of leadership we've seen there these last two years.

:)

:rofl:

doesn't give you the clue you need, perhaps you are just fated to be forever clueless.

Its been this way for as long as he has been in office, starting with the health care "reform". Being bold is not part of the administrations vocabulary.

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Fucking greedy teachers and useless liberals.

at hand, namely President Obama's consistent pattern of weakness and timidity in his role as the president.

Wisconsinites standing up for their own rights and beliefs themselves without some big name politician or politicians guiding the way, taking the credit, then leaving. Besides, too many politicians today have their fingers to the wind to decide which way it is blowing before they have the courage to move.

Leaders lead, they don't come a dozen steps into the dance.

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Given his track record, he's probably in meetings with the Koch brothers trying to get some feedback on how to shut those greedy workers up.

He's not gonna step up, get real folks.

fuck em...

he has some state officials and state reps working the people in these areas. But due to so-so polling hasn't gone all in. Obama never one to try to drive the public opinion or polls, When they aren't big in his way he lets others take the gamble and only on the state level. Thus what could be a national rallying point for the working class, has become again marginalized at the federal level. Maybe it's an ok strategy for middle roading it to a second term. But who cares if you get re-elected if you can't do anything or more important help to prevent a clear attack at the very base of your parties power. Just amazingly short sighted politically. Yeah you win in 2012, but unions are so poor Dems can't win national office in the long term. Wow great move.

as soon as it becomes clear which side is going to win.