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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 09:55 PM
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What happened to the democratic party? Since when does the
partys elected officials stay what I consider quiet, when the opposing party is attacking what it stands for? The common man. What the hell is going on? Something is terribly wrong.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 09:58 PM
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1. Our party's officials have mostly done that since 1966
They've been too scared to fight back ever since Reagan won his first term as governor. They assume that the argument has been lost forever and that our ONLY option is to perpetually keep sliding further and further right, insisting that we're still different than the GOP because "we still aren't QUITE as far to the right as THEY are".

It hasn't sunk in yet, forty-five years later, that this approach never actually WORKS.
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:19 PM
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10. You brought something to my mind. Maybe it was a few years earlier.
After Kennedy was shot. Yes I think that had a great psychological effect on our party.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:02 PM
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2. It makes me sick...
Recommended.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:32 PM
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16. Really? A false meme makes you sick?
NGU.
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:54 PM
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19. Maybe you could demonstrate what is false about it
It doesn't look false to me.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 11:01 PM
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23. Tammy Baldwin, Gwen Moore, Tom Barrett...
Tho that's just a lesbian, a black woman and a mayor, right? :eyes:

NGU.
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Gr8Dem Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 01:26 AM
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32. Those victories are due to...
Great voters, not pathetic democratic politicians that speechify well but don't deliver.
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Gr8Dem Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 01:26 AM
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33. Those victories are due to...
Great voters, not pathetic democratic politicians that speechify well but don't deliver.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:03 PM
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haikugal Donating Member (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:08 PM
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4. This is correct
they are corporatists and don't represent traditional Democratic values...just look at the politics and who gets put down...liberals.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:10 PM
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5. the bipartisan crowd doesn't want to offend republicans ya know nt
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:11 PM
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6. It makes me wonder why we even have a Democrat party.
It should be Republicans and Republicans-lite.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:16 PM
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7. Yeah, or Republicans and Republican-wannabes...
Except for the few true blue Congresscritters who do fight for Democratic principles.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:17 PM
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checks-n-balances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:48 PM
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17. Comment deleted by the poster
Edited on Tue Feb-22-11 10:52 PM by checks-n-balances
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:55 PM
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20. You know I'm sure, they say ” this is a republic” not a democracy.
That is why I use democratic party. You and I are democrats. I am much better at math than english.
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checks-n-balances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 11:47 PM
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27. They say both things - they don't like to say "democratic"
or democracy, because they believe in neither anyway. In fact, they don't even believe in a representative republic - rather, in plutocracy, autocracy, kleptocracy & kakistocracy & fascism.
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 04:58 PM
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38. I sure as hell won't argue with that!
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jimlup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:16 PM
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8. Sounds like you need to read or listen to some of the things Noam Chomsky has been saying lately
Try:

http://www.zcommunications.org/democracy-uprising-in-the-u-s-a-by-noam-chomsky

It's not pretty but, it is the truth.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:27 PM
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11. Pockets were filled....voices went silent....any questions?
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:31 PM
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14. Silent?
:crazy:

NGU.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:52 PM
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18. forget it, Jake
its DUtown...
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:57 PM
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21. No, it's Mad Town...
Tammy Baldwin, Gwen Moore, Tom Barrett...

Not a SINGLE Dem (except a lesbian, a black woman and a mayor).

NGU.
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 11:02 PM
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24. 3 out of thousands....ROFLMAO
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 11:04 PM
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25. Yeah, I figured people would dismiss the lesbian, the black woman and the mayor.
Edited on Tue Feb-22-11 11:05 PM by ClassWarrior
:eyes:

NGU.
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 02:45 PM
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36. Has nothing to do with that at all and it's sad that you think
so.
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 11:01 PM
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22. I have witnessed his many short ramblings and I don't care what
your ” DUtown” means but I receive E-Mails from the white house and several representatives and I do expect a call to action and them leading the troops.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 11:43 PM
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26. Good luck with that.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 12:25 PM
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35. I've been waiting for that Call to Action since 2008:


Obama had a MANDATE for "CHANGE", and an ARMY in the streets after the election.
Instead of Leadership and "CHANGE", we got "Chill Out. I've got this."
"I never campaigned on a Public Optipon."
"We don't begrudge them their wealth."
"They are just savvy businessmen."
"Its the FREE MARKET!"
"The Republicans have a lot of great ideas!
"We have to honor contracts" (for RICH people's bonuses).

A mandate unused is a mandate wasted.

"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans.
I want us to compete for that great mass of voters that want a party that will stand up for working Americans."
---Paul Wellstone



"By their works you will know them."
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joeunderdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:29 PM
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12. This is why I unenrolled from party affiliation.
When I went to city hall, there was a signature page for voters who choose to change parties. All but one (out of 25 or so) had switched to Unenrolled. Not Dem, not Pub. Unenrolled.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:31 PM
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15. I'm still registered Dem for purposes of the primary - otherwise, I'd do the same. nt
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:30 PM
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13. Quiet?
:crazy:

NGU.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 11:51 PM
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28. The Democratic party are waiters - they observe your reactions then continue to wait...
until they see the repugs blow it then step up to the plate...
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 12:48 AM
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29. I think the gop will accuse Democrats of causing the demonstrations
if they get too involved. It is better that these demonstrations are seen for what they are very clearly.... Americans fighting for their right to organize and touching greatness in the process.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 01:09 AM
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30. Corporate money -- and it's been wrong for decades -- !!!
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Gr8Dem Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 01:22 AM
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31. Agreed!
+1000 on that. Elections have consequences. Support strong dems with an actual record of progressive accomplishments in the future!
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 01:27 AM
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34. I think the "independents" - the way they voted in the midterms scared the shit out of them
and they don't want to be labled the shop stewards of the country. Same with Obama.
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 02:47 PM
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37. Republicans pretending to be Dems got elected and pushed their agenda as 'moderates'.
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