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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 04:16 AM
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Did You know.. Beck,Limbaugh, and Billo are unionized workers

“AFTRA Union for entertainers that negotiates salaries, enforces safe working conditions, sponsors employer-paid health and retirement benefits, provides scholarships, and generally makes your life easier. Performers or journalists in television, radio and the recording industry can join. This includes actors, soap opera actors, singers, game show hosts, newscasters, audio-book narrators-just about any person who is seen or heard in the broadcasting world.”

Glen Beck voted on pages 5, 7, & 14

Glenn Beck is a member of AFTRA, LA Local 2010

Here is the votes of these hypocrites..:
www.aftra.com...

I await the day when it's Glenn and Rush taking a pay cut, loses the right to negotiations or forced no-pay furloughs
for the good of the company!!

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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 04:23 AM
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1. K&R- So was Ronald Reagan....nt
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 12:13 PM
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31. Reagan, the ultimate Republicon hypocrite and chickenhawk
Edited on Wed Feb-23-11 12:14 PM by SpiralHawk
Of course he would be a union member, and a turncoat hypocrite union buster.

No integrity. Just an actor pretending integrity.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 12:53 PM
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45. IIRC he was president of SAG...nt
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 03:26 PM
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60. Reagan was a member, then a VP, then presidcent of SAG in the 1940-s
and early 1950's...
When he took office, 37% of US workers were in unions. After W's regime, the figure was 7%.


mark
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 02:35 AM
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68. President and TV producer simultaneously, a violation of union rules ...
because of the obvious conflict of interest. Then he sold out all the older movie actors to curry favor with the new networks. No royalties for all those old films -- Marx Brothers, Bob Hope, etc.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 08:19 AM
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2. K&R for more visibility. n/t
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 08:19 AM
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3. Quique + R.
Oh hypocrisy, where is thy sting?

Already, morons on other boards are defending this: "THERE'S A HEWGE difference between public and private yewnyuns . . ."
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noel711 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 08:24 AM
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4. How can their technical staff stand there
filming and staffing their needs when they hear that tripe?

Why don't the AFTRA workers walk out in solidarity?
That'd fry their potatoes.
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Ahpook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 08:54 AM
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5. I'll be damned :)
This will make my dads head explode. He listens to those lying sacks of shit, salivating over every hate filled word.

So Limbaugh not only is a union member, he hired a openly gay artist to play his wedding? What a motherfucking hypocrite.

How the hell do people listen to that crap? I noticed quite a few won't admit to it, but you can tell they do. They parrot that shit all day long.



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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 09:06 AM
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6. Rushbo Put A Lot Of Union People Out Of Jobs...
At one time AFTRA represented a large number of radio stations but began to shrink in the 80s. Rushbo's slimefest was developed to replace live and local programming that would put disk jockeys and engineers out of jobs in place of a satellite and computer. His "success" led to replacing even more local programs with national formats and it's destroyed a once proud and creative industry. AFRTA did little to fight this as they cared more about the TV side of things (a lot more money there) and did little to stop the union busting. Today there are very few AFTRA radio members.
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Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 09:18 AM
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7. Interesting... didn't Clear Channel Radio take off in the 80's?
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 09:27 AM
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10. Three Rounds Of "DeReg"
The first was in the 80s...including the elimination of the "Fairness" Doctrine and, more important, regulations that required radio stations to have a live body at the controls 24/7. This opened the door for automation and satellite and easy distribution of national shows. Next was in the early 90s (Poppy boooosh) that broke down the ownership rules and allowed companies like Clear Channel to move beyond just 7 markets. It went into hyperdrive with "Dereg '96" that eliminated virtually all ownership laws and began a massive feeding frenzy of buying and debt that led to Clear Channel's rise and also a 14 billion dollar debt. The loss of local programming has led to an exodus of listeners (especially those under 40) and created the cesspool we hear today.
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Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 09:36 AM
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13. If we get rid of CC then we will have a chance, until then we just don't .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clear_Channel_Communications
Liberal talk radio is heard on a few of Clear Channel's stations, primarily secondary to its main news talk stations, and usually feature at least one local host with Dial Global programming; Air America Radio also aired on these stations. Clear Channel has shown a tendency to drop liberal talk affiliations whenever possible and replace it with satellite Fox Sports talk (see, for instance, WCKY, WARF, KLSD, WXKS , and WINZ); this has, in a few rare circumstances, caused protests, such as those involved when Clear Channel wanted to make the same move with WXXM in Madison, Wisconsin (WXXM was eventually allowed to keep its liberal format).
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 09:51 AM
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14. The Debtors Will Do The Job...
Corporate radio is on life support. Revenues tanked and haven't recovered and the huge debts have led many companies to go into bankruptcy; rescheduling debt with ever impatient creditors. The clock is ticking as these companies have downsized and outsourced to their limits and have seen both a talent drain and drop in audience with each belt tightening. There have been a good number of stations that have gone silent over the past year and predictions that a lot more will end up that way in the year ahead. Radio had made itself obsolete.

Hate radio thrives as its one of the few formats left that draw ears to AM. It caters to the angry white male crowd. You don't see young people listening to radio, yet alone AM radio and the Clear Channels feel there is no "liberal" audience out there.

That said, CC does own KTLK and KPOJ...two of the leading Progressive talk stations and if there was good money in Progressive talk their need to make money (especially now) trumps ideology. Look at how GE had to take a more liberal tone at MSNBC...it was where a market was and an audience that long ago left radio for cable and internet.

Cheers...
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 09:22 AM
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8. Then they are worse than scabs
They deserve ass kickings!
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 09:24 AM
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9. K&R to expose their blatant hypocrisy.
:banghead:
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 09:29 AM
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11. Hypocrites!
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 09:33 AM
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12. Where are you seeing their names?
I want to use this, but I cannot find any of their names to prove they are members. WHere are you seeing them?
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 11:08 AM
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16. .
Edited on Wed Feb-23-11 11:08 AM by cleanhippie
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 10:16 AM
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15. K & R - thanks, Panther!!! This is really good to know.
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 11:09 AM
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18. Where did you see their names?
am not seeing them anywhere.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 02:44 PM
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59. Run a search in the top right corner...
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 11:08 AM
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17. Can anyone VERIFY this? Panther does not seem to want to respond. ANYONE?
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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 11:49 AM
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29. Here is a PDF of AFTRA Los Angeles Local 2010 Board Election -- Write-in Vote Summary
Beck and O'Reilly are listed as ' Newspersons '

Limbaugh is listed as ' Announcer '


http://www.aftra.com/documents/LA_2010_General_Election_Voting_Results.pdf
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 12:20 PM
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35. This shows that they RECIEVED votes, where do you see that they are members?
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 01:37 PM
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52. Those are write in votes.
Edited on Wed Feb-23-11 01:39 PM by MilesColtrane
There were also votes for Big Bird, Butthead Dingleberry, I. P. Freely, and Dopey.

I don't think I.P. Freely has an AFTRA card.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 11:11 AM
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19. Reagan was too
Lots of phomies is that party. I know too mant rabid BushCo bots in socialist unions. Most safety net users I know are Republicans, and those who fight to not use it = Democrats.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 11:12 AM
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20. I've been screaming this for days!
Anyone on radio or TV, any on-air personality and most of the production staff are union! Fox News is UNION! How do they reconcile this fact with their union hating reporting?
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 11:13 AM
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21. Did you VERIFY that Rush, Beck, Billo are actually members?
Where can I see it for myself?
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 12:16 PM
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32. See post 29.
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 12:21 PM
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36. That shows that they recieved votes, but not that they are members.
I need to verify that they are in fact members.
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Hailtothechimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 09:27 PM
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62. Logically speaking, why would anyone vote for a non-member?
The fact that somebody voted for them to run a union would suggest pretty strongly that the recipients of the votes are actually in the union.

Let these clowns prove that they aren't in the union. See if they like having to prove a negative.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 11:14 AM
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22. St. Ronnie Reagan was PRESIDENT OF SAG!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan

Precious Ronnie was president of the Screen Actor's Guild... A LABOR UNION!!!
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 11:15 AM
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23. Why isn't this headline news? n/t K & R
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nolabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 11:19 AM
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24. Oh, this is rich. K&R, and a BIG LOL. I hope Keith is taking notes.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 11:41 AM
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25. Check out AFTRA board elections from last summer... Limbaugh noted...
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 12:19 PM
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34. I see where they RECIEVED a vote, but where does it show that they are members?
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 11:42 AM
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26. The k and the r
freaking hypocrites
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 11:42 AM
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27. I am calling BULLSHIT on this. Unable to verify.
Can someone point out where they are seeing these names?
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 11:44 AM
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28. Of course they are all Republicon chickenhawks, too
Beating the drum to send us and our children off to fight and die in an oil-profits crusade, while they shirk responsibility and avoid service to the USA.

How Republicon is that?
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 11:56 AM
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30. Do Beck & Limbaugh know that THIS is on their union's website's front page?:

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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 12:17 PM
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33. How do you know they belong to this union?
I am not seeing their names anywhere.
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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 12:21 PM
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37. See post #29
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 12:21 PM
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38. That is showing that they recieved votes
where does it state that they are in fact members?
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 12:33 PM
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40. I called the Los angeles local and the woman I spoke to confirmed that Rush Limbaugh
is a member. She did not have Beck as a member of the LA local.

Here's the number if you feel the need to call yourself: 323.634.8100
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 12:34 PM
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41. Great, thanks for that.
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 12:38 PM
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42. Please note that she sounded a little nervous when I asked her to check Beck after Limbaugh, so
I am wondering if she decided not to confirm Beck's membership as well for fear of getting in trouble. Just my speculation, but it did seem odd since Beck's name is the one that is showing up the most in stories around the 'net.

Can't help wondering what would have happened if I'd asked for Beck first...
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 12:50 PM
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43. Anyplace other than that woman that this can be verified?
How can this be proven to anyone else? We need a link to something more concrete I think.
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 12:53 PM
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44. I don't know why you think calling the chapter and being put through to their membership person
Edited on Wed Feb-23-11 12:55 PM by beac
isn't proof enough. Have you tried calling yourself?


ETA: Maybe Beck ISN'T a member after all and my reading of her "nervousness" was off, but I have no doubt about the cofirmation of Limbaugh.
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 12:58 PM
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47. I think you are misunderstanding me.
This is not for me, it is so I can show OTHERS that they belong to a union. Me "telling" someone that I talked to a lady on the phone does not hold a lot of weight. It needs to be in print and documented. Understand?
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 01:13 PM
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50. Ok, I understand.
I did try and call back just now and get a membership list. Apparently, in the time between my calls, they have been BOMBARDED with calls and are no longer confirming memberships.

I did, however, say to her that IF Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Beck were members they certainly should be stripped of their membership based on what they were saying about unions. She said "That's for the higher-ups to decide, but I certainly agree!" Indirect confirmation?


I wonder if any DU members are also AFTRA members? Perhaps they could provide a membership list? I'm sure members can look up other members. I have to go out for the day now, but maybe you could post a request?
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 01:05 PM
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48. Call the local or national - Ask for the number of Glenn Beck's agent.
If he's a member they'll give it to you.

I do this all the time when I need to find union talent that I can't find any other way.

You could do the same with O'Reilly.

These guys joined when they started in radio because they had to.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 01:14 PM
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51. I just did some Googling after seeing this thread and...
from members of AFTRA, they say that to be nominated on that vote page that everyone is referring to, where Limbaugh is listed, one HAS to be a member.

You wouldn't nominate a non-member.

This blog has a pretty good discussion in the comments section:

http://sobeale.blogspot.com/2011/02/glenn-beck-union-man.html


Here's what I'm getting: They are indeed part of this broadcast union, AFTRA, which is affiliated with the AFL-CIO.

However, the distinction the right-wingers will make is that it's GOVERNMENT unions they don't like; private unions are okay.

I haven't watched THEM enough to know if they're clearly making that distinction as they hurl insults at hardworking Americans.

:mad:

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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 01:47 PM
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53. Anybody can write in any name they want.
Edited on Wed Feb-23-11 01:47 PM by MilesColtrane
As I noted in another post, there are write ins for "Butthead Dingleberry", "I. P. Freely", etc..


The ballot tally simply says, "All Write-In Candidates Must Meet Eligibility Requirements for Service".


Beck, Limbaugh, and other scum may well be AFTRA members, but the L.A. Local 2010 Election Results .pdf in no way proves that.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 02:37 PM
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56. Gotcha. n/t
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 02:22 PM
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55. Good points all around.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 02:41 PM
Response to Reply #51
57. Proving
Republicon hypo-scumbaggery
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 12:54 PM
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46. Beck may well using an anonymous occult psuedonym
...his usual darkside occult deviousness...you know, pretending to be pious when he is pie-for-us and none for you and all kindsa creepy unholy stuff like that there -- there like that, like that there.
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 02:09 AM
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66. I see O' Lielly's name too.
My God these people are the lowest form of scum. I'm going to lay this on ANYONE who says these people have any credibility.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 12:24 PM
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39. bullshit
calling them "workers" or dignifying what they do with the term "work" is an insult to working people everywhere :grr:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 01:12 PM
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49. Now that is rich.
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FredStembottom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 01:57 PM
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54. This would just prove what I always say: unions must be some kinda good...
..if only because unionized millionaires always cling to them!
:banghead:
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 02:42 PM
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58. K R
thank you for pointing this out.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 07:53 PM
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61. Yep, I sure did. they are hypocrites in just about all they do & say. (nt)
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 09:56 PM
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63. They should be fired and their jobs outsourced to India
Oh, wait, They're protected by their union contract.
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Shanti Mama Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 12:19 AM
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64. priceless. nt
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 01:22 AM
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65. kr
Edited on Thu Feb-24-11 01:22 AM by defendandprotect














THANK YOU FOR THE HEARTS -- AND A HUG BACK -- :hug:
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roxiejules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 02:34 AM
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67. Rush admitted he belongs to unions
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_100410/content/01125110.guest.html - 10/4/2010 - Rush Limbaugh


CALLER: I think I know the real reason that you went on Family Guy, and it's not what everybody thinks. I think that you needed to get your Screen Actors Guild card so if we do go down the tubes with health care, and they refuse you at a hospital, even with all your money to be able to pay for your health care yourself, you will still be able to get in if you have a Screen Actors Guild health care policy.

RUSH: You are sharp. You are quick. You are really foresighted and quick. You would make a great personal manager for somebody in this business who was not able to see the future.

CALLER: -- that my friend told me when he lost his job, thank God he had his Screen Actors Guild card because as long as you've been active, I don't know the exact number of years, but he was still able to get great coverage even while he was looking for work because he had been a working actor within two years or something like that.

RUSH: Well, I already have a SAG card. I've participated in many SAG-sanctioned programs in prior years. I can tell you that SAG health care is among the worst that you can get out there. However, it would help me overcome the mandate of having to buy, if it ever came to that.

CALLER: Sure. And I figured what constituency group is going to find some way to be protected but the Screen Actors Guild.

RUSH: Exactly right. Now, we're just assuming here that I will not be kicked out of the Screen Actors Guild in such a circumstance. I mean it was touch-and-go even getting the card. They eventually decided they wanted my dues, but it was touch-and-go getting the card. "Why don't you just rely on your AFTRA card?" And I said, "Well, the Screen Actors Guild is requiring a presence here." Not all shows do, but -- (interruption) well, I don't want to admit this publicly, yeah, but under duress. I belong to unions under duress, yes. My union dues are going to elect Democrats. I mean Bill Buckley had to join AFTRA in order to do Firing Line. He wrote column after column after column opposing the fact that he had to do this on the same grounds that I have complained about it. (interruption)





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