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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 05:15 AM
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digby on Jon Stewart's handling of Wisconsin
Edited on Wed Feb-23-11 05:24 AM by Ichingcarpenter
Bizarro Tea Party?

by digby

I'm sure you were just dying for some old fashioned he said/she said punditry on Wisconsin so look no further than Jon Stewart, who is now in the process of becoming an iconic representative of the genre. It started off well, calling out the Governor on his union breaking goals. But then he turned on the Democratic Senators implying that they were being wimps instead of strategists playing for time and proceeded to denigrate the protesters as fools, taking them and the media to task for comparing these silly hippie protests with the Egyptian uprising. (Nobody's been killed fergawdsake!) He finally took Rick Santelli to task for comparing it to 9/11 after which he went after MSNBC and Fox for being hypocrites etc, etc, etc., ending up calling the Wisconsin protests the Bizarro Tea Party.

SNIP........


Calls for"civility"are usually just a way to shut people up and sadly, I'm fairly sure that the only people who listen to Stewart are liberals who are getting the idea that it's wrong to get in the streets or call out the other side in rough language. Conservatives just think he's a useful idiot. I find this attitude very perplexing coming from a comedian, especially one who commonly does things which could be perceived as unfair, silly and undignified.

This is why Colbert's satire is so much more effective and, frankly, much braver.

Watch how Steven handles Wisconsin here:

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/375040/february-22-2011/a-less-perfect-union



You can even watch the daily show clips at her website and see her point.
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2011/02/church-lady-says-wi-protesters-are.html


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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 05:30 AM
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1. Jon Stewart is an irrelevant asshole.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 05:43 AM
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2. I just finished watching Colbert ... he was great
he interviewed Randi Weingarten the president of the American Federation of Teacher and then even continued his coverage of Wisconsin and then interview Wisconsin State Senator Jon Erpenbach

Stewart's handling of it was a bad joke and disingenuous.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 06:29 AM
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3. Sadly, Jon has jumped the goldfish, a precursor to jumping the shark.
But, he's not really on our side.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 06:40 AM
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4. it was never his job to be on our side, though
.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 06:58 AM
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5. Which is another reason he's irrelevant.
He supported Nader in 2000, what the hell was he thinking?
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 08:43 AM
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11. Supporting Nader is one thing...
As Nader is of the progressive sort. Bashing Dems/protestors for what would be Naders ideas (and fighting for them) is just raw opportunism. He sees something he can take a cheap shot at, and he does it. It doesn't matter if it hurts justice or fairness
He always likes to say journalists are 'hurting' the public, when he hurts that very same cause as well.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 07:39 AM
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6. His rally was really just 'Manufacturing Consent:'
on his call on 'the crazy right and crazy left' also comparing
Keith Olberman to Glenn Beck.


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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 08:03 AM
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8. Yep, more of the 'lets be reasonable' with insanity.
The Stewart fanboi's won't see it, but everyone else does.
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ellenrr Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 07:24 AM
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21. yes more of the "false equivalency"
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 10:29 AM
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13. I really like that picture in your post, man.
It is wicked cool, as they say in Boston.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 07:47 AM
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7. Daily Show doesn't even try most nights. Their "reporters", on most nights,
were the funniest bits. Now, they seldom show up. And when they do, the bits are poorly written. Daily Show has become like SNL, only another launching pad for something else. Stewart has become the focus of the show and he ain't Colbert.
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Sabriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 08:05 AM
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9. And let's not forget Stewart's "fat joke" to open the show
How stupid was that?
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 08:32 AM
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10. Isn't Stewart a member of SAG?
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nebenaube Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 10:23 AM
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12. psst... open note to Stewart Cobert...
1. Madison is not in North Dakota.
2. Wisconsin has already invaded Iraq.
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theophilus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 10:38 AM
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14. I watched TDS because I assumed Jon was a liberal. Now, not so much.
I find his arguments nebulous and, recently, just aimed at "play nice". But at least he will have DONALD RUMSFELD on tonight! I'm sure Jon will put him under citizen's arrest.
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 12:43 PM
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15. Yep, 'play nice' -but he can do anything and not be called on his BS.
Jon will give Rummy some superficial hazing, then proceed to give him a public BJ.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 01:30 PM
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16. He won't even mention that DOA won't protect him anymore
for War Crimes..... he should do a citizen's arrest on his ass.
Yes, you are probably right about the interview.


Justice drops defense of Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz


By JOSH GERSTEIN | 2/22/11 5:09 PM EST

The Justice Department under President Barack Obama has quietly dropped its legal representation of more than a dozen Bush-era Pentagon and administration officials - including former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and aide Paul Wolfowitz - in a lawsuit by Al Qaeda operative Jose Padilla, who spent years behind bars without charges in conditions his lawyers compare to torture.
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white_wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 01:33 PM
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17. I used to like Stewart mor than Colbet, but
now I am becoming a proud member of the Colbert Nation. Stewart seems to be wanting to play nice and get along, Colbert isn't pulling any punches and doesn't back down. I'm glad for it too.
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travelingtypist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 06:50 AM
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18. Stewart completely full of shit in this segment.
False equivalence between FOX bashing these protests and embracing the Tea Party protests and MSNBC bashing the Tea Party protests and embracing the union protests.

Jon Stewart: But if my theories are correct, if my analogy is to work, then there must be another news network that hates the Tea Party protests, but loves the Wisconsin union protests.

Ed Schultz: Tea Party wackos are dead set on repealing the healthcare law. These are real American people who want a future and feel like they're being deprived of it.

Jon Stewart: See, they're real people, but the other people were wackos. Don't you get what's happening here?


Stewart glosses over the fact that the Tea Parties are astroturf completely funded by corporations, while these protests are real grassroots. This is a critical distinction.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 06:58 AM
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19. Did you know they injured a Camel for their skit in Madison?
Edited on Fri Feb-25-11 06:58 AM by Ichingcarpenter
Camels don't do well on ice and snow
and kept falling down and hurting itself.

Its on youtube and its painful to watch.
I think They canceled the skit.. thought it would be funny to bring
a camel to Madison.
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travelingtypist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 07:12 AM
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20. I saw the video.
Yeah, it was painful to watch.

I think it'd be fun for Stewart and Schultz to get in a room and hash this out.

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