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GillesDeleuze Donating Member (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 11:43 AM
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Wisconsin State Journal attempts defense of coverage
Edited on Thu Feb-24-11 11:47 AM by GillesDeleuze
The editor of the Wisconsin State Journal attempted to defend its awful coverage of the massive protests happening in their own backyard.

Mixed with the complaints are occasional words of praise, and suggestions that we’re too far left in our news coverage and editorials, not too far right. So it goes when you try to play down the middle.

Many of the complaints have common themes. Such as: Why don’t we write about how the Koch brothers are behind Gov. Walker’s proposals? Why didn’t we point out that the pro-Walker crowd was dwarfed by the union protesters Saturday? And how come we publish politically biased cartoons by artist Phil Hands?

If you’re looking for answers: a) Because a deep investigation of the Koch brothers’ influence in Wisconsin would take weeks of research, and so far this episode has been going on for 10 days and we’ve had nearly every reporter scrambling just to keep up on the Square; b) We probably should’ve provided more perspective on the size of the pro vs. con crowd; c) Because Hands is a wonderfully talented cartoonist, and poking fun and making wild exaggeration is what cartoonists do.


To which, I responded:

Hi John,

In your defense of your newspaper's inappropriate coverage regarding Walker's radical proposals, you write:

"If you’re looking for answers: a) Because a deep investigation of the Koch brothers’ influence in Wisconsin would take weeks of research, and so far this episode has been going on for 10 days and we’ve had nearly every reporter scrambling just to keep up on the Square;"

Try "teh google"

http://www.google.com/search?q=walker+koch&hl=en&safe=off&client=stainless&rls=0.7.5&prmdo=1&prmd=ivnsuo&sa=X&ei=a4dmTaKJJ4SClAf59On-AQ&ved=0CBAQpwUoBw&source=lnt&tbs=blg%3A1%2Ccdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A2%2F14%2F2011%2Ccd_max%3A2%2F21%2F2011&tbm=

These people didn't seem to have the same problems that our states newspaper of record had reporting on the state's own governor. I know it takes a lot of effort to retype the Fitzgerald's press releases, but you don't exactly need a Deepthroat to figure out whats going on here.

Did you miss the election cycle? Are you unaware of the existence of billionaires in politics? Were you alive in 1979 when Mr. Koch made a run for president? For a paper that reprints teaparty talking points on a daily basis, you should at least find out who's spinning them for you.

As I told Scott Milfred, the State Journal has jumped the shark. At least the Fonz pretended he was from Wisconsin.

Best Wishes,
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 11:48 AM
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1. K&R - Wow, someone actually unrec'd. Imagine that!
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 11:59 AM
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2. The Milwaukee Jounal Sentinel has been horrible as well
For the first few days they ignored the protests as much as they possibly could. If you want good local coverage of the Wisconsin protests, the Madison Capital Times has provided the best coverage hands down.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 12:02 PM
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3. First they ignore you, then they mock you, then...
the media comes around after the victory and claims it has always been the voice of whoever wins.
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 04:46 PM
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15. I heard that before, in regards to a famous President, but I can't remember who.
comes around after the victory and claims it has always been the voice of whoever wins.

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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 12:03 PM
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4. Ironically, the normally RW op-ed page of the Oshkosh Northwestern has been very critical of Walker
..and his scheming.

http://www.thenorthwestern.com/section/OSH0602?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|Today%27s%20Conversation|more
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GillesDeleuze Donating Member (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 12:09 PM
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6. Alex Hummel tends to be a Goo Goo guy
from my experience.
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 12:56 PM
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13. Alex Hummel is no longer w/ the Northwestern
He's now a public employee at UW-Osh.

The op-ed page is run by Exec Ed Stew Reickman.
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GillesDeleuze Donating Member (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 02:05 PM
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14. good for uw, bad for northwestern
he seems really likable. there are some good profs in the poli sci dept.. david seimers comes to mind.
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CrownPrinceBandar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 12:11 PM
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7. That's pretty cool, but..........
Edited on Thu Feb-24-11 12:12 PM by CrownPrinceBandar
I've become so cynical about the partisanship of media anymore I can't tell if this is a legitimate condemnation or their attempt to get on the right side of history (i.e.: cover their ass). IMHO, the media's credibility is shot.

edit: added thought
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 12:06 PM
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5. So he expects us to believe this newspaper is just learning about the Koch Brothers?
:rofl: He sounds about as clever as Walker.
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GillesDeleuze Donating Member (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 12:17 PM
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9. Its a Catch - 22 for him
Either they knew about the Koch brothers and didn't want to print anything (most likely)

or

They have no credibility: they didn't know about the Koch brothers, and they ran pro-walker editorials. thats naive.

naivety is not a trait i look for in a paper.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 06:12 PM
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18. Yep - Lazy or corrupt and complacent. Yay media.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 12:12 PM
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8. Pssst, "news"paper people...you should have been looking into Scut's financial
backers during the campaign.
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GillesDeleuze Donating Member (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 12:26 PM
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10. to busy endorsing his brown bag gimmick
they kissed his ass during the election.

even when he responded to Tom Barrett's policy proposal with a document 1 page longer but 96 point type.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 12:50 PM
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11. Sounds like the "news"paper would make a great lining for a litter box or
bird cage! :D

I loved your response, BTW! :fistbump:
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 12:53 PM
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12. Well done Sir!
Cheers!
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 04:57 PM
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16. "trying to play it down the middle"..WTF!
Try just reporting what is FACTUAL, and real.. WE will decide how we interpret it:grr:

what the hell are they teaching in journalism school?
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 05:54 PM
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17. "Chooo chooooooo...here comes the Excuse Train"


"All Aboard!"

The State Journal has no time to research? Or no desire?

What a bunch of hacks at that "source." And a bunch of whiners. They should just admit they're tools and be done with it.

If they only care about the affluent in Wisconsin, jut fucking admit it...I'm sick of the bullshit.

Good on you for your response to their whiney-assed excuses for their blatantly biased reporting...

:applause:

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