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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 09:58 PM
Original message
Hugo Chavez supports Khadaffi on Twitter
Assuming this really is his Twitter feed, of course.

http://twitter.com/#!/chavezcandanga
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 09:59 PM
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1. I am stocking up on popcorn.
:popcorn:

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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:41 PM
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37. Too bad the OP is the opposite of what Chavez posted.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 01:39 AM
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78. The entire context of the postings:
Chavez wrote on Twitter, "Minister Nicolás: (Ven. Foreign Minister) Teach the far right yankee lovers! Long live Libya and its Independence! Gaddafi is facing a civil war!": http://twitter.com/#!/chavezcandanga/status/40943330179284992

He wrote this after Nicolas claimed, "Libya is having difficulties which should not be handled with information from imperialist news agencies": http://www.correodelorinoco.gob.ve/debate-parlamentario/canciller-nicolas-maduro-abogamos-por-paz-y-unidad-libia

I don't know how to make it clearer than this.
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:00 PM
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2. If it's really Chavez, it speaks VERY poorly of him nt
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socialshockwave Donating Member (637 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:00 PM
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3. Yeah, I'll say.
Though I must admit, I really didn't think much of Chavez in the first place. Guy just oozes dictator to me - but that's just my opinion.

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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:02 PM
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6. Don't worry
I'm sure his fans will be here in minutes to explain why you are wrong.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:13 PM
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13. they haven't hit the unrec yet on the thread
they're real good for doing that
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:14 PM
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14. They did, it was 0 after my rec.
I guess we got past it though. But we need a SCREENSHOT because I don't see it anymore.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 05:10 PM
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81. I wonder how much they get paid
maybe I should submit my resume

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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:15 PM
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16. Un-reccing for whining about un-rec's. nt
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 11:26 PM
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47. Recommending to counter bullying people for discussing the un-rec function & apostrophe misuse n/t
Edited on Thu Feb-24-11 11:33 PM by Turborama
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 11:45 PM
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49. Aww.
<3
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 11:47 PM
Response to Reply #47
50. Un-reccing for people misunderstanding the use of the apostrophe!
:P

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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 12:02 AM
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66. Too late, you can't misuse the function twice on one OP
:party:
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 12:10 AM
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69. ...
But my sockpuppets can!!

:hide:

just kidding!
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speltwon Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 11:52 PM
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That is *SO* meta! :) nt
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:01 PM
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4. The Dictator club?
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:44 PM
Response to Reply #4
40. Chavez is very opposed to dictators, of course, especially pitiyanqui dictators.
One of the great things about the Venezuelan democracy is the frequency of elections.
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:01 PM
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5. from Chavev's official website:
Edited on Thu Feb-24-11 10:14 PM by steve2470
Hugo Chávez Frías
@chavezcandanga: Vamos Canciller Nicolás: dales otra lección a esa ultraderecha pitiyanqui! Viva Libia y su Independencia! Kadafi enfrenta una guerra civil!!
2011-02-24 20:47:05

http://www.chavez.org.ve/twitter/

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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:04 PM
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9. Google Translate translation here:
Edited on Thu Feb-24-11 10:12 PM by steve2470
We Chancellor Nicholas: give another lesson to the far right pitiyanqui! Libya and its Independence Viva! Gaddafi faces a civil war!

on edit: Can someone supply an accurate translation, please ?
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:14 PM
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15. It's no longer there.
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:18 PM
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19. screenshot of Chavez's official Twitter page
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:21 PM
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21. Weird, it's there now, I must've been looking at the wrong part, I got a screenshot too.
Thanks for that.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:24 PM
Response to Reply #19
24. Is this for real? Does Hugo really have a twitter account?
If it is real, how sick is that?
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:26 PM
Response to Reply #24
25. yes he does
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:33 PM
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29. I'm surprised this hasn't been picked up by the news. It's two hours old.
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:35 PM
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30. faux news got it
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:36 PM
Response to Reply #30
31. That's an Associated Press report.
Edited on Thu Feb-24-11 10:37 PM by joshcryer
edit: thanks btw.
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:37 PM
Response to Reply #31
32. oh yea, my bad, and yvw nt
Edited on Thu Feb-24-11 10:38 PM by steve2470
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:38 PM
Response to Reply #32
34. Dunno why it's not posted in LBN nor does the twitter story show up on Google News.
The AP report is everywhere now though.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:02 PM
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7. Honestly, I really don't understand how anything can be
verified on Twitter.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:04 PM
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8. I hear Chavez supports Scott Walker in Wisconsin and writes for Brietbart
:popcorn:
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naaman fletcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:05 PM
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10. according to the screen shot in this article, that's him
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:08 PM
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11. Trusting twitter for anything is not really very smart
Way too much bad data on it. Some of the feeds from Libya, Tunisa, and Egypt were well meant by clearly in error.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:10 PM
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12. Wow, why the unrecs.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:21 PM
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22. BTW, you should probably know that this is pretty big news, since he's been silent on this...
...from the beginning.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:27 PM
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26. Please explain about the big news. Is it a positive or negative thing...
And what exactly did he say?

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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:32 PM
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28. He's blaming the revolution on right wingers. Calling for Libya's independence, and saying Gaddafi..
...is facing a civil war (presumably because of these "right wingers" are not respecting Libya's "independence").
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 11:50 PM
Response to Reply #28
51. Thanks for the clarification after all the un-rec whining.
BTW, do you have a link to Chavez saying that?

Thanks!

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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 11:52 PM
Response to Reply #51
52. this is it, in Spanish:
http://www.chavez.org.ve/twitter

@chavezcandanga: Vamos Canciller Nicolás: dales otra lección a esa ultraderecha pitiyanqui! Viva Libia y su Independencia! Kadafi enfrenta una guerra civil!!
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 11:55 PM
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56. I asked for a link. Not a "twitter".
:eyes:

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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 11:57 PM
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57. Here:
http://twitter.com/#!/chavezcandanga/status/40943330179284992

It's the third or fourth tweet down on the OP's link.

:shrug:
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 11:58 PM
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59. That's a link? I was asking for something real.
:shrug:

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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 12:01 AM
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63. Oh, you want a link to him saying that with his voice?
Here's a news report that mentions the tweet: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110225/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_libya_latin_american_allies

But to say twitter isn't real is really offensive to the efforts of Catherina here, the efforts of the Tunisia protesters, the efforts of the Egyptian protesters, the efforts of the Libyan protesters.

It actually fits very well with the rhetoric, though. They're not protesting, they're not real, it's imperialist forces.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 12:09 AM
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67. My friend. I did not say the twitter is not real. One only needs to type in
that url to find it.

What I am saying is that quoting something from that site has no more authenticity than a run-of-the-mill chat site, where anyone can say anything and no one really knows who is saying it. Oh, and BTW, CALL YOU CONGRESSMAN RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!!

Trust, but VERIFY!

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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 12:12 AM
Response to Reply #67
70. The Associated Press has verified it.
It's not been retracted, it's posted on his official twitter account. He said it. It actually fits well with the Venezuelan Ambassador saying that "Tripoli is calm."
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 12:27 AM
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72. "it's posted on his official twitter account" ok. nt
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 12:31 AM
Response to Reply #72
74. How about this, his blog along with his twitter account:
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 12:37 AM
Response to Reply #74
77. Well now we might be starting to get somewhere. Though the thought of
Chavez supporting the uprising in Libya gives me the skeeves.

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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 11:54 PM
Response to Reply #51
55. btw, right wingers should be "yankee lover"
I was having a problem with 'pitiyanqui'.

Apparently it means yankee lover or yankee sympathizer as another poster suggested.

It's basically a 'dirty term' for an American.

Aussies call us seppos. :D
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 12:13 AM
Response to Reply #55
71. A Little Insult Is All the Rage in Venezuela: ‘Pitiyanqui’
By SIMON ROMERO
Published: September 5, 2008

CARACAS, Venezuela — Just when Venezuelans thought they had their epithets down pat for describing — or disparaging — admirers of the United States, a new question popped up: What could be lower than “yanquis,” the less than endearing term that senior Venezuelan officials use for Americans?

The answer, according to President Hugo Chávez, a connoisseur of the spoken word, is “pitiyanqui,” a term that roughly translates as “little Yankee.” Employing the neologism in recent weeks to mock everyone from his political opponents to the nation’s moneyed elite and Honduran businessmen, Mr. Chávez has yet again displayed his knack for shaping the way that Venezuelans talk to one another.

“The pitiyanquis,” Mr. Chávez recently proclaimed, “should thank God that this revolution is peaceful, because we are many and if it were violent, there would not be a trace of pitiyanqui left on this Earth.”

Full article: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/06/world/americas/06venez.html
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 12:28 AM
Response to Reply #71
73. Interesting, thanks.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:42 PM
Response to Reply #12
39. Because the OP says the opposite of what Chavez said.
There are more than a few of us who read and write Spanish.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:46 PM
Response to Reply #39
41. Saying thag Gaddafi is facing a civil war is the same as saying that he supports Gaddafi.
Gaddafi is not facing a civil war, Gaddafi is facing an uprising that intends to oust him.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 11:20 PM
Response to Reply #39
44. No response? You had to go make a misleading OP instead?
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 12:32 AM
Response to Reply #39
75. Or in your case MISread and write Spanish. nt
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 02:11 AM
Response to Reply #39
79. Tú tienes huevo en la cara.
Te pusiste en ridículo.

No es suficiente poder LEER el español.

También tienes que COMPRENDER lo que lees.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:17 PM
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18. Um. Er. Ah. Um.
***crickets***
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:21 PM
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23. Chavez jumped the shark a couple of years ago
Edited on Thu Feb-24-11 10:22 PM by Gman
and is now more looney than anything. I had such high hopes for him especially when he cut prices for Citgo gasoline in the US to help people, sent money and aid t New Orleans after Katrina and when he subsidized heating oil for the poor in the US, but he's lost it.
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:29 PM
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27. I think they are both demented.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:40 PM
Response to Reply #27
36. You have to see "South of the Border" by Oliver Stone
It really shows the truth of South American politics today, something missing in M$M.
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:42 PM
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38. Thanks. I like Oliver Stone's work.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:37 PM
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33. Translation of the Chavez post:
Edited on Thu Feb-24-11 10:38 PM by L. Coyote
"Vamos Canciller Nicolás: dales otra lección a esa ultraderecha pitiyanqui! Viva Libia y su Independencia! Kadafi enfrenta una guerra civil!!"

"Vamos Canciller Nicolás:" likely refers the Emperor and Autocrat of All the Russias, specifically to the Czar's downfall! He is calling MQ Czar Nick.

So, roughly,

"Let's go Czar Nicholas, give another lesson to the far-right Yankee sympathizers! Long live Libya and Libyan Independence! Kadafi is facing a civil war!!"

PITIYANKEE es la nueva palabra de moda en Venezuela desde noviembre del 2008 por el presidente Venezolano Hugo Chávez, su significado es:
1.- la personas que tienen tendencias Norte Americanas contrarias a sus orígenes y cultura,
2.- amantes de los Yankees
sinónimo: jala mecate yankee,
antónimos: Nacionalista,
frases: aquí hay piti-yankee, no seas piti-yankee, para que queremos yankee si tenemos piti-yankee ...
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:39 PM
Response to Reply #33
35. Thank you for that, I knew I saw "pitiyanqui" before but was having trouble with it.
Helps with the context.
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rabs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:59 PM
Response to Reply #35
43. This will help you too



pitiyanqui.

(Del fr. petit y yanqui).


1. m. despect. Ven. Imitador del estadounidense.

Real Academia Española © Todos los derechos reservados

wiki: (term originated in Puerto Rico)

Pitiyanqui es un modismo despectivo originario de Puerto Rico durante la década de los 40 y 50, usado para referirse aquellas personas que imitan y admiran de forma servil y baja a los estadounidenses y su estilo de vida, avergonzándose de su origen y renegando de él. Su origen viene del francés petit (pequeño) yankee.

El término es utilizado para describir aquellas personas que, sin tener la nacionalidad estadounidense, adoptan sus costumbres e imitan su estilo de vida considerándolo mejor, aun cuando sea discordante con su entorno o tradiciones locales.

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En Venezuela (the term has been around since the 40s and 50s, so Hugo Chavez did not coin it, he merely revived it.


En Venezuela el vocablo fue introducido en las décadas de 1940 y 1950 por Mario Briceño Iragorry, quien en artículos publicados solía utilizarlo. El presidente de Venezuela Hugo Chávez, reutilizó el término para referirse despectivamente a los opositores a su gobierno.

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By the way, "canciller" does not = "czar" as another post said.

cheers,




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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 11:27 PM
Response to Reply #35
48. pitiyanqui = yankee lover
according to the reverse distionary online
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 12:37 AM
Response to Reply #48
76. Or, "little Yankee"
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 02:13 AM
Response to Reply #33
80. FRACASO ÉPICO. n/t
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 07:15 PM
Response to Reply #33
82. I don't see anything here praising Kadafi
eom
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:56 PM
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42. REC this UP to support TRUTH: Hugo Chavez DENOUNCES Khadaffi on Twitter
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 11:20 PM
Response to Reply #42
45. No truth in that OP. Gaddafi does not face a civil war, and you know it.
What the fuck.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 11:21 PM
Response to Reply #42
46. Your sad little spin is just pathetic. nt
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 11:54 PM
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53. I can't believe people actually "source" this tweet shit here on DU.
Un-fucking believable.

Get real folks!

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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 12:00 AM
Response to Reply #53
62. It's his twitter account:
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devils chaplain Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 12:02 AM
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65. You sound like...
... a grandfather complaining about those damn-fangled new internets contraptions. It's Hugo's twitter account. It's documented to be his twitter account. The account has over 1,250,000 followers. It's Hugo.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 11:54 PM
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54. It's probably not Chavez, but since he's supported Ahmacrazyfuck
in the past, this isn't totally out of the realm of possibility.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 11:58 PM
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60. That is Chavez' official twitter page.
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 12:00 AM
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61. If that's a forged or hacked page, they did a fantastic job
I think it's the real thing.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 12:01 AM
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64. It's the real thing, it's been out for hours, no denouncement which would come quick...
...if they wanted to denounce it.
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 12:10 AM
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68. I completely agree. It's Hugo Chavez 100% nt
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 11:57 PM
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58. Venezuela: US, allies fomenting Libya's violence
http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/Venezuela--US--allies-fomenting-Libya----s-violence/754694/

Associated Press
Posted: Feb 25, 2011 at 0904 hrs IST

Caracas Venezuela's top diplomat on Thursday echoed Fidel Castro's accusation that Washington and its allies are fomenting unrest in Libya to justify an invasion to seize North African nation's oil reserves.

Foreign Minister Nicolas Maduro claimed the United States and other powerful countries are trying to create a movement inside Libya aimed at toppling Moammar Gaddafi.

Maduro did not condemn or defend the violent crackdown on Libyans participating in the popular uprising against Gaddafi's long rule.

He called for a peaceful solution to the upheaval in Libya and questioned the veracity of media reports on the bloody uprising, which has crept closer to Gaddafi's stronghold in Tripoli.
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