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white_wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 12:30 AM
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A quote that sums up the Conservive world view.
Edited on Fri Feb-25-11 12:49 AM by white_wolf
I was just watching the newest Amazing Atheist video and he was talking about two youtube posters, a guy named Steven Crowder and someone else who's youtube channel is called how the world works. Anyway I'll ink the video if anyone wants to see it. Here is the quote from Amazing Atheist. "Both of these men live in a world where self is the ultimate value, and any talk at all about the greater good is denounced as Socialism and swept under the rug and being dismissed as not within our discourse." I decided to go ahead and link the video here just for reference sake. Just a small warning the guy isn't known for his patience and tends to get angry easily: http://www.youtube.com/user/theamazingatheist?blend=1&ob=4#p/u/6/KZeKaEFHAlg
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Jmaxfie1 Donating Member (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 12:35 AM
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1. I know, except when it comes to religion, women and gays.
Then of course they are all to willing to demand an appeal to "the greater good" through religion and "decency".
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Newest Reality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 12:52 AM
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2. The disconnect in that world view
is, regardless of how they might consider self an ultimate value, (which is an evaluation of self by self) it does not exist by itself. In fact, it cannot exist by itself except by abstraction of itself. The spiritual notion of an individual soul lends to the idea that there is some actual aspect of self, (a monad) that is immortal, which implies that it is independent of any physical reality.

There is the context of the self, which is its environment. That is, where a self comes to be and exist. Without the corresponding environment, (one that is conducive to the sustenance of the self) the self does not appear to be able to function or thrive. The imagination and a sense of isolation contribute to ideas of an independent self without context, but that appears to be conjecture and a result of various factors, both cultural and personal.

Then, there is the evidence that our species has been prone to promote its own survival via the formation of cooperative groups which, demonstrably, serve to enhance our capacity to compensate for our frailties as a species and to enhance our survival factor.

Only by ignoring the various, and vital, factors involved that allow for those selves to discuss the value of the self and consider it ultimate, can such abstractions be entertained.

Oddly, when you really begin to study the notion of a self and seriously strive to find out just what it is and where, you are soon faced with some interesting, yet perplexing, questions of scope, boundaries and even a perplexing enigma that I won't go into here.
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 04:13 AM
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3. Narcissism is the real conservative religion
and just like what happened to the mythical Greek character Narcissus, narcissism will be the destruction of the reactionary conservatives. But will their psychopathy also destroy this nation?
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