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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 10:20 AM
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Koch Execs Respond To Prank Call: We Will Not 'Back Off'
Edited on Fri Feb-25-11 10:30 AM by kpete
Koch Execs Respond To Prank Call: We Will Not 'Back Off'
Eric Lach | February 25, 2011, 9:33AM


Koch Industries executives are reacting to the prank call pulled on Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R) this week, where a blogger got through to the governor by posing as David Koch. In an interview with National Review Online, Koch Industries executive vice president Richard Fink says the Koch brothers will not "back off."

"With the Left trying to intimidate the Koch brothers to back off of their support for freedom and signaling to others that this is what happens if you oppose the administration and its allies, we have no choice but to continue to fight," Fink said. "We will not step back at all. We firmly believe that economic freedom has benefited the overwhelming majority of society, including workers, who earn higher wages when you have open and free markets. When government grows as it has with the Bush and Obama administrations, that is what destroys prosperity."

Fink said the blogger's prank call was part of a larger attempt to discredit the Kochs.

"This is not just left-wing bloggers," he said. "This is part of an orchestrated campaign that has been going on for many months. It involves the Obama administration, the Center for American Progress, aligned left-wing groups, and their friends in the media. This is just the latest salvo in their attacks on the Koch brothers and Koch Industries. But it is an escalation -- they're now bringing in some labor groups, which they have not done before. We expect this to be part of an ongoing effort against Koch Industries as the 2012 presidential campaign approaches."

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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 10:22 AM
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1. evidently groveling before fascists is not such a good policy after all. they keep on coming nt
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 10:22 AM
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2. Such an amazing tactic to describe what they're doing and assign it to...
...the other side. Sociopathic.

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CrossChris Donating Member (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 10:26 AM
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7. That's the playbook. And it works. It'll work this time.
That's why they're pushing for so much right now. Every issue works the same way, and it ends with them getting their way. Every time.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 10:29 AM
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10. I agree - but it only works because our side enables them...
Too often Dem "leaders" adopt their false narratives instead of outing them.
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 11:28 AM
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12. Welcome to DU CrossChris. You are 100% correct.
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CrossChris Donating Member (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 02:39 PM
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29. Thanks, and Happy Carnival! I hope I'm wrong as can be.
But I rarely have my cynicism proven wrong these days. It sucks.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 10:23 AM
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3. Notice they Frame it as "economic freedom"
Edited on Fri Feb-25-11 10:24 AM by FreakinDJ
this was my point in wishing Obama to speak out
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CrossChris Donating Member (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 10:28 AM
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9. Walker revealed that they thought of it as the Berlin Wall falling.
I find that particularly disturbing. Billionaires really find a way to think of themselves as the oppressed class. I guess that's part of the key to their effectiveness. Always believe the world is indebted to you.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 12:46 PM
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21. Koch should have kept their pie hole shut...
And Obama needs to keep his shut on this too, at least for the moment. PR 101.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 10:24 AM
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4. Boycott everything from Koch Industries.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 10:25 AM
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5. " . . . workers, who earn higher wages when you have open and free markets."
http://www.stateofworkingamerica.org/pages/interactive#/?start=1971&end=2008

Psssssssst . . . Fink and the rest of the Friedmanite lurkers . . . do me a favor, will ya?

Stick them sliders over ANY period of Republican "FREE MARKETZ" presidency after 1979.

Tell me how much the "workers" (i.e. the bottom 90%) gained during those periods.

I'll give you Free Market Champeenz five minutes to fret and fume at your screen. Or spin accordingly. Whichever.
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 11:30 AM
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15. As DU poster JackRiddler asked, why are we not compared to GERMANY?
Edited on Fri Feb-25-11 11:31 AM by Poboy
They are doing very well and have a fantastic safety net and worker rights.
They also keep the bankers in check.
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pbrower2a Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 12:53 AM
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35. The dark side of German history
That is all after 1945 in two-thirds of the country and a third of the rest after 1989.

The secret to preventing war and militarism is a populace that doesn't fall for the ultimate Ponzi schemes: colonial adventures and other aggressive warfare. You give people education through graduate school if their abilities so determine. You have a single-payer healthcare system. You have economic stability that comes in the form of full employment at a living wage. You have laws that protect the right to organize unions. Sure, it all implies high taxes, but what the heck? As long as you see something coming back in return you are OK.

A hint: Wal-Mart failed in Germany.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 10:25 AM
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6. Ah, les pauvres!
The plight of the beleaguered billionaire. It makes me weep to contemplate it.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 10:27 AM
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8. he is part of the state govt.? he is declaring this is his battle. nt
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FredStembottom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 11:26 AM
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11. Probably the most important point - and I overlooked it.
These 2 individuals think they are a "side" in a state government issue?!?!

What an indicator of how corrupted America already is! These guys can openly usurp a role in a State's business!

No more back rooms. No more meetings in parking garages. Just take the role of government.

Wow. Light-bulb moment, seabeyond.

Thanks......(?)
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 11:48 AM
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16. exactly. that is the huge of it. the take over, and no hiding, saying out loud for all of us. nt
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FredStembottom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 12:42 AM
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33. Good catch.
:thumbsup:
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 11:28 AM
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13. Bring it Bucko. nt
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 11:30 AM
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14. they have to defend themselves against a Vast LeftWing Conspiracy?
:rofl: :puke:

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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 11:53 AM
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17. they will do everything and anything for their own purposes
this has to do with the election in 2012.
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 12:11 PM
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18. The Koch VP is a Fink
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 12:17 PM
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19. They are secretly funding the climate denial machine
while funding tea party thugs to disrupt everything that benefits middle class; http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/08/30/100830fa_fact_mayer?printable=true

These people are despicable, fascism left Germany and is alive and kicking in America.

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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 12:45 PM
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20. Idiots should have kept their stupid trap shut...
But I'm glad they didn't.

Thanks for confirming your greed and corruption, assholes.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 01:01 PM
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26. +1
they sure should have, but egos always gets the better of ones senses.

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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 01:33 PM
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28. Yep...
That's why we can't seem to shake that booger off our fingers... The Whore of BabbleOn can't resist a snappy comeback.
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 02:47 PM
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31. It's good that they don't even hide it anymore..........
That hubris is the reason that the capitalistic system can't even save itself. It's all about pride and money. Anything goes. Everybody needs to remember that.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 12:51 PM
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22. Big business has always run this country - like this is something new, look at what happened to JFK.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 12:52 PM
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23. Go cheney yourselvels, Koch boys.
:nuke:
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 12:57 PM
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24. k&r nt
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reformist2 Donating Member (998 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 12:58 PM
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25. Keep your money out of Wisconsin! We need campaign finance laws that would stop out-of-staters.

If you want to influence an election, spend money on races in your own district!
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 01:04 PM
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27. Who the hell do they think they are? So they've just declared that they run Wisconsin? n/t
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 02:41 PM
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30. As I've been saying for the last few days............
Pay attention to the puppet MASTERS more than the puppets. Now we see the puppet MASTERS speak. Like that second cartoon.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 03:29 PM
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 12:47 AM
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34. Bad Koch, No Bush
:smoke:
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 01:24 AM
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36. "support for freedom" my ass!
It's support for plutocracy, oligarchy and slavery. Fukkin robber barons is what those sonsabitches are!! :grr: :mad:
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kimsarah Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 01:47 AM
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37. Koch Execs Respond in Code Language
In response to Mr. Fink's statement, "We will not step back at all. We firmly believe that economic freedom (THE FREEDOM FROM PAYING TAXES) has benefited the overwhelming majority of society (THE TOP 2 PERCENT), including workers (CEOs), who earn higher wages (THAN THE REST OF THE 98 PERCENT) when you have open (NO REGULATIONS OR ENFORCEMENT) and free (IF YOU PAY NO TAXES) markets (WHERE THE OUTCOMES ARE GUARANTEED). When government (THE POLITICAL PAWNS OF CORPORATE AMERICA) grows as it has with the Bush and Obama administrations (BIGGER BRIBES AND PAYOFFS, FUELED BY CITIZENS UNITED), that is what destroys prosperity (FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS AND THE PEONS)."

P.S. Sorry for the all caps. I couldn't figure out how to use boldface.

:nopity:
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