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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 08:53 PM Original message |
I have never seen a president who cares more about doing what's more politically expedient |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
1. While I think Obama is an artful dodger, Bush II was far worse than this guy. |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 08:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Where did I say Bush II was better? |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 09:01 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. You're not addressing me, but you did say you've "never seen a President" which |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 09:11 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. I would argue that Bush was willing to take a stand more often, it was just an evil stand. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 10:04 PM Response to Reply #20 |
45. And I would agree with you on that. Well said. nt |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 09:55 PM Response to Reply #14 |
41. Bush did not care what was politically expediant. He satisfied his base, period. |
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thanks_imjustlurking (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 09:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
13. Bush II (and the cabal) was far worse than *anybody*. nt |
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swilton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 09:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
42. Bush was a creep |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-11 07:56 AM Response to Reply #42 |
61. So he wasn't dishonest about "weapons of mass destruction"? |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
2. Unrec. nt |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-11 07:47 AM Response to Reply #2 |
58. Unrec all you like; it's the truth and it's why Democrats are being viewed as such... |
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
3. I have |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 08:58 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Blech, true, but Obama seems worse because he claimed to be something completely different on the |
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thanks_imjustlurking (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 08:59 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Yep. I can live with the despair. It's the hope that's killing me. nt |
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erodriguez (532 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-11 08:50 PM Response to Reply #9 |
87. Well said. |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 09:24 PM Response to Reply #6 |
26. This is one of my bigger beefs as well. I don't feel like Clinton was a fraud and... |
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 10:59 PM Response to Reply #6 |
48. politicians lie on the campaign trail |
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hulka38 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-11 09:52 AM Response to Reply #48 |
70. The game has gotta go. |
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FLPanhandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-11 09:46 AM Response to Reply #6 |
69. Who is naive enough to believe politicians promises while campaigning? |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-11 12:38 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. So if it's naive to support a Democratic candidate who is |
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-11 04:34 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. meh, I understand why a lot of that was done |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-11 08:16 PM Response to Reply #74 |
82. There was no need for any compromise on that. |
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-11 08:22 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. I disagree |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-11 08:44 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. Okay, you couldn't convince me anyhow, after all I've learned |
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FLPanhandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-11 05:41 PM Response to Reply #73 |
79. McCain wasn't elected so we don't know what promises he would have broken |
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tpsbmam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-11 08:31 PM Response to Reply #69 |
84. I am. Okay, now let me clarify..... |
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global1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 09:10 PM Response to Reply #3 |
18. You Can't Talk About The President Of The World Like That......nt (sarcasm) |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 09:33 PM Response to Reply #3 |
31. By the way, why isn't Clinton speaking up for Wisconsin labor? |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
5. I think Citizens United is in the way of everything and is a disaster for the |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 09:37 PM Response to Reply #5 |
32. Citizens United applied in California, and our state voted straight Democratic Party |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 09:40 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Yes, there is IMO quite a difference between candidate Obama and President Obama. n/t |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-11 07:43 AM Response to Reply #5 |
57. In what way is Citizens United standing in the way of Obama being the "fierce advocate" that... |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-11 08:21 AM Response to Reply #57 |
64. Funding! He's walking on eggs trying to appease those corp. interests that |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-11 08:33 AM Response to Reply #64 |
66. On his current trajectory, he will lose his next election run... |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-11 09:20 AM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Yep, agree!!! n/t |
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thanks_imjustlurking (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
7. In our current political system, |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
8. He couldn't have said anything too strongly anti-Libyan until all our citizens had |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 09:00 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. I don't think he should go there, but making a strong statement could not be seen as meddling. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 09:07 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. Can't predict how Gaddafi would react, though. He WOULDN'T have been meddling, |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 09:41 PM Response to Reply #8 |
35. Obama could simply make a speech congratulating the employees |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-11 07:52 AM Response to Reply #8 |
59. Maybe we need to evacuate our citizens from WI first? Maybe *THEN* he'll speak out? |
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hulka38 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-11 09:56 AM Response to Reply #59 |
71. lol! |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 09:00 PM Response to Original message |
11. I'm sorry but that just sounds like BS to me. |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 09:02 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. +100 |
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tabatha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 09:19 PM Response to Reply #11 |
23. +1000 |
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moobu2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 09:21 PM Response to Reply #11 |
24. +10,000 |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 09:44 PM Response to Reply #11 |
36. Tx4Obama. Would you advise Obama to simply thank the union members |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 10:00 PM Response to Reply #11 |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-11 07:53 AM Response to Reply #11 |
60. That's fine as long as Obama wants to run for re-election with the same support *FROM* Labor... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
16. I've never seen a President |
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tpsbmam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-11 08:49 PM Response to Reply #16 |
86. There's always a first for everything! |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-28-11 01:00 AM Response to Reply #16 |
90. +100 |
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Scurrilous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-28-11 01:16 AM Response to Reply #16 |
91. ... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
21. I agree. |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 09:18 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. If he does not show some substantive stuff soon he may well be a one term president |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 09:47 PM Response to Reply #22 |
38. I was impressed with Dick Durbin's speech today in Illinois. |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-11 07:56 AM Response to Reply #22 |
62. It's pretty hard to imagine Labor laboring very hard for him now. (NT) |
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Poiuyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
25. Sadly, I agree |
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ladjf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
27. America was seriously damaged by George Bush and his henchmen. |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
28. I think he takes what it means to be President more seriously than ... |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 09:33 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Right. |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 09:47 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. At times I am ticked with him ... |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 09:52 PM Response to Reply #28 |
40. I voted for Obama because I wanted a Democratic president who would |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 10:08 PM Response to Reply #40 |
46. Explains why Obama saved the US auto industry ... right? |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-11 01:54 AM Response to Reply #46 |
56. Obama did not do nearly enough. |
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WhaTHellsgoingonhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
29. Obama has turned his golden rule into the enemy of effective leadership... |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
33. Our special forces are in Libya. US, Britain, France. |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 09:59 PM Response to Reply #33 |
43. That report is poorly sourced and many think it is untrue |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
37. I understood what your post meant. |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
47. Yup. |
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Monique1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 11:02 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. what I heard today |
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Monique1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 11:04 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. and I need to tell you |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-11 01:06 AM Response to Reply #51 |
55. Do you have a link to the letter? |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
50. Libya Protests: Obama Says Muammar Gaddafi Must 'Leave Now' |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-11 11:26 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. And previously.... |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-11 12:01 AM Response to Original message |
53. Well, Clinton was worse. But Obama does give him a run for his money. |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-11 12:06 AM Response to Original message |
54. Here's a bizarre comment I saw on Palin's FB page |
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icnorth (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-11 08:16 AM Response to Reply #54 |
63. After reading your David Da'Jew Rothstein's quote |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-28-11 12:58 AM Response to Reply #63 |
89. LOL., they really do have a hard time with English over there ;) |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-11 08:21 AM Response to Original message |
65. He's afraid of stepping on toesies. |
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hulka38 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-11 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
68. Absolutely true. n/t |
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randr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-11 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
72. The teabaggers rose to power without any significant leadership |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-11 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
75. President Obama's number one job is to ignore the loons and get reelected |
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GeorgeGist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-11 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
76. As far as I am aware ... |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-11 05:31 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. HE'S TEH COWARD!1!!! |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-11 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
77. . |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-11 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
80. This is why Palin thinks she has a chance. I'm sorry to be the one to inform you of that. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-11 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
81. Then you missed eight years of Bush and Cheney |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-11 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
88. He inspires me tp do nothing to assist in his re-election. Aside from |
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