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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:12 AM
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News from the Recall War in Wisconsin. Three of Wi 14 facing recall
Edited on Sun Feb-27-11 08:30 AM by HereSince1628
Republican/tbaggers moved forward with their recall effort for State Sen. Hansen a member of the WI 14.

They filed their paperwork Friday, and the group has less than two months to collect the 13,852 valid signatures needed to force a new election.

A turnout to gather signatures in Green Bay had at least 300 recallers show up, while the route into the Rock Garden Supper Club was lined with 500 Hansen reporters.

Hundreds of people turned out to support the recall of Robert Wirch another member of the WI 14

In Merrill, Lincoln County, Jim Holperin was under pressure as a signature drive for his recall was underway.

Recall cannot be undertaken for Governor Walker as he has not served long enough.

Although eight republican WI Senators could be recalled, there is no news on status of any recall efforts for them.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:13 AM
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:18 AM
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5. Obviously, the Koch's can't be recalled by us.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 09:04 AM
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18. Was thinking of their Repub minions. . .n/t
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:15 AM
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2. Why aren't any Republicans under recall pressure?
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jp11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:16 AM
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3. Exactly, all the people protesting could also be setting the framework to
recall Walker, provided WI allows for it I think it does but not yet, in the meantime they could be working on recalling all the republicans who side with him on all this crap.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:36 AM
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6. He has to be in office for a year.
And, as far as the 8 Senators eligible for recall go, planning is afoot. People want to make sure they have their ducks lined up before formally filing. In large measure, this means getting together a preliminary list of willing signatories because you only have 60 days to get together the total list of 1/4 of the voters in the district. (i.e. 1/4 of the count of people who voted for Governor in that district in the last gubernatorial election).
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:48 AM
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11. Walker's not enough, we need to erode support for the bill
and recall pressure on the R senators is a way to do that.

They'll take notice of getting a filing made to recall them.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:59 AM
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17. You mean petitions haven't circulated among the protesters?
The arrogant bastards who forced the vote in the Assembly aren't being recalled? WHY NOT?
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 09:18 AM
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19. Lots of different petitions circulated...they need to turn into filings
Edited on Sun Feb-27-11 09:20 AM by HereSince1628
The same is true of the many webpages.

There seems to be no 'new news in the news' regarding pro-labor progress.

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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 10:23 AM
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33. Collecting signatures at the protest would be haphazard and inefficient.
Recall signatures must be collected only from those who live in each specific district of the senator being recalled. This must be a well organized effort to collect these signatures because assuredly Republicans will challenge them all.

Collecting signatures at the protest would certainly result in thousands of invalid signatures. Besides, yesterday it was snowing and every sheet of paper out there was getting wet.

Recall: do this well and do this right then SHOW UP AND VOTE! (this time).
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 09:22 AM
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23. There are a couple of Republicans who are under pressure
like Alberta Darling. Check out dragonlady's posts in the Wisconsin forum here. In order to be under pressure you have to be from a pretty evenly divided district. For some Dems and Republicans it would never happen in a million years. Other districts swing back and forth.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:17 AM
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4. There is a web page for recall of Alberta Darling WI Sen R
Edited on Sun Feb-27-11 08:21 AM by HereSince1628
There isn't any news of a filing on her.

http://recallalbertadarling.org/
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:43 AM
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8. Oh boy -- a web page! I'll bet she's quaking in her boots! (NT)
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:50 AM
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14. It's a start, and it could lead to a filing. I'd encourage them rather
than disparage the effort.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:58 AM
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16. The many Facebook efforts need to move to actual filings. n/t
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 09:20 AM
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21. I'm sorry, but I'm getting damned tired of trying to get alleged-Democrats to *DO* anything beyond..
...just moaning on the Interwebs. Mr. Tesha and I go
to demonstration after demonstration and meeting after
meeting and it's the same damned-few folks every time.

Yesterday, at the Labor demo in our state capital, one
of our local Demo bigwigs walked through. Oh, he was
glad-handing everyone and making sure they knew he
was there, but he didn't actually *DO* anything. He
didn't speak, he didn't shout, he didn't have a sign.
Apparently, actually *DOING* anything beyond his
narrow self-promotion would have been beneath his
dignity.

As a result of decades of this, I've pretty much
decided that America (*INCLUDING* Democrats) is
getting exactly the government it deserves.

So please don't expect me to impressed that someone
created a (be still my heart!) *WEBPAGE*; I do that
every day (and yes, I'm the new webmistress of our
local Dem Committee's website).

Tesha
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 09:23 AM
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24. Well, just whine in a DU post about other people instead.
That's helpful. :sarcasm: Because you have no idea what else those people are doing.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 09:52 AM
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28. Actually, I know quite a bit about what my fellow Democrats are (and aren't) doing.
And I thought I made that clear. But if it makes
you feel better to think of me as nothing more than
an internet whiner, well, we all need our rationalizations.

Tesha
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 12:15 PM
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36. Do you know what Democrats in Wisconsin are doing?
C'mon, let's hear all about it.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 04:39 PM
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37. As I mentioned below, I am speaking primarily of NH.
Edited on Sun Feb-27-11 04:40 PM by Tesha
But if you want to discuss Democrats nation-wide,
well, they're not doing so well right now, are they?

Or did I mistake the drubbing of 2010?

(By the way, here in NH, we switched from being
majority-Democrat in all branches of our state
government to the Republicans holding veto-proof
(>75%) majorities in the State House and Senate
and 100% unanimous control of our "Governor's
Council".)

Tesha
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 10:04 AM
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29. Right, it's crazy to think people would use the internet to organize.
lolz, welcome to 2011, Tesha
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 10:11 AM
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30. Of course people use the Internet to organize -- did I say they don't?
But please don't try to convince me that *JUST BECAUSE*
somebody created a web page that anything that actually
will change the world is occurring.

Tesha
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 10:14 AM
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32. The local Democratic party is working hard day and night.
Local leaders are taking days and weeks off of their day jobs to take this opportunity to change. Honestly, I couldn't give a rat's ass if *you* are convinced - but people are busting their asses in the trenches here.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 11:50 AM
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34. That's great for you, really. I don't want to rain one drop on your parade.
But here in New Hampshire, the Democratic Party is
sitting with its official thumbs up its ass doing
nothing of any substance. Yesterday was another
great opportunity and they absolutely blew it.

Labor and the Left didn't.

Tesha
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:41 AM
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7. Because that would be hard work? Official Democrats don't seem to do hard work. (NT)
Edited on Sun Feb-27-11 08:42 AM by Tesha
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:45 AM
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9. We know that's not true. Right now the Recall War is a Media War
as much as it is a race to get the support needed to get the recall filings made.

We need more noise about our efforts on the web/twitter etc so that news directors will pick-up the things that are trending. News agencies CAN be notified and invited to events--it's not as if there is nothing that can be done.


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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 09:21 AM
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22. Dan Kapanke is potentially under threat for recall in La Crosse...
Saw this article earlier on that. He's been one Republican that's been holding off on "committing" to supporting Walker...

http://lacrossetribune.com/news/local/article_be8d6658-3de9-11e0-ba18-001cc4c03286.html

Here's a Facebook entry for that effort...

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Recall-Dan-Kapanke/155767287810442

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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 09:38 AM
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27. I think what I saw about him was dems were holding off...
Which isn't to say that there isn't anything going on at all.

I may have missed it but I don't remember any change on that.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:46 AM
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10. and no recall for walker?
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:49 AM
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12. see reply 6
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:50 AM
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13. Walker needs to be arrested for multiple ethics violations. Forget recalling him.
With any luck, he'll be out soon.

Then he can return to being an Operation Rescue thug.

Bastard.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:53 AM
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15. In the recall war focus on Walker is not useful
Edited on Sun Feb-27-11 08:54 AM by HereSince1628
Focus on Walker actually shields the people who are immediately vulnerable to pressre.

The pressure needs to be on the action points in the WI Senate, and that is the recallable republican WI Senators...especially those with the least support.

Randy Hopper – won with 50%
Alberta Darling – won with 51%
Dan Kapanke – won with 51%
Sheila Harsdorf – won with 56%
Glenn Grothman – won with 80%
Robert Cowles – won with 100%
Mary Lazich – won with 100%
Luther Olsen – won with 100%
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 09:27 AM
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25. Ethics/crimes compilation
Please add articles as they appear:

Gov. Scott Walker needs to resign NOW! Admitting felonies on tape. What a moran!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x490151
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 10:14 AM
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31. He should be prosecutable under RICO acts
His phone call sounded like a criminal enterprise to me.
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ShadowLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 09:20 AM
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20. Why isn't our side doing the same thing to GOP in the legislature? We show up to protest more
If our side is so much more motivated to show up and protest these outrages why isn't anyone organizing a recall against republicans in the state senate and assembly? Screw the fact that a lot of these guys probably live in pretty safe heavily gerrymandered districts, recall them anyway to send a message that we won't tolerate this assault on the unions.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 09:29 AM
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26. Please don't confuse the Left and Labor with Democrats.
Edited on Sun Feb-27-11 09:31 AM by Tesha
They are really three separate groups in the Venn
Diagram; they share some members but it's a fluid
relationship.



The *DEMOCRATS* should be spearheading any effort
to recall Republicans.

Tesha
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 12:13 PM
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35. recommend
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