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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 07:26 PM
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Libyan Revolution Tweets, Day 11 (or 13*), Part 9 (ICC!)
Libyan Revolution Tweets, Day 11 (or 13*), Part 9 (ICC!)
#Feb17 Youth organizers invite Gaddafi's collaborators to stand under his umbrella ella ella ella ella ella http://bit.ly/faa34E

"We have Plan A, Plan B, Plan C. Plan A is to live and die in Libya. Plan B is to live and die in Libya. Plan C is to live and die in Libya."
- Saif Islam Qaddafi
during interview

Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, Part 5, Part 6, Part 7, Part 8

*I called this Day 11 because the official start date was #Feb17 but the kickoff was 2 days early so in reality today is day 13.

Previous Day 10 threads: Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, Part 5, Part 6, Part 7, Part 8, Part 9, Part 10, Part 11
The world’s 100 largest arms dealers, excluding Chinese vendors, sold weapons for $401 billion in 2009, with US vendors in first place

Threads for Days 1-9 are in my journal

"I was born in Tunisia, I persevered in Egypt, I sacrificed myself in Libya, I have fought in Yemen&Bahrain. I am Freedom, I will not die."
- Libyan4life Jeel Ghathub

LibyanThinker The Libyan Thinker
Remains of Soldiers Burned to Death for Not Shooting Protesters in #Libya http://www.twitvid.com/YXKOT & http://tinyurl.com/4d6a57n

MAP of Protests across the Middle East



Google Earth DL here to see positions of army and patrolling route of mercenaries

Please rec if you read these so I know if the effort here is worth it.

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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 07:31 PM
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1. Hypocrisy laid bare: Saif al-Islam Gaddafi. Video with machine gun from today
Edited on Sun Feb-27-11 08:26 PM by Catherina
Hypocrisy laid bare: Saif al-Islam Gaddafi

ZahratTrablis Zahrat El 
#Saif standing with a machine gun commanding his goons to go out and kill.. Yet there is nothing going on in #Libya hmmhttp://tiny.cc/6tx9e
26 minutes ago 


...

It was not only BP and other oil companies, but British academics who were happy to accept his largesse. The London School of Economics took £1.5m from Saif al-Islam Gaddafi, money which by definition had to have been stolen from the Libyan people, despite being warned to back away by Professor Fred Halliday, the LSE's late and much-missed authority on the Middle East, who never flinched from looking dictators in the eye.

"I've come to know Saif as someone who looks to democracy, civil society and deep liberal values for the core of his inspiration," purred the LSE's David Held as he accepted the cheque. Human Rights Watch, once a reliable opponent of tyranny, went further and described a foundation Saif ran in Libya as a force for freedom, willing to take on the interior ministry in the fight for civil liberties. Meanwhile, and to the surprise of no one, Peter Mandelson, New Labour's butterfly, fluttered round Saif at the country house parties of the plutocracy.

Last week, Saif, the "liberal" promoter of human rights and dining companion of Mandelson, appeared on Libyan television to say that his father's gunmen would fight to the last bullet to keep the Gaddafi crime family in business, a promise he is keeping. The thinking behind so many who flattered him was that the only issue in the Middle East worth taking a stand on was the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and that the oppression of Arabs by Arabs was a minor concern.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/feb/27/nick-cohen-arab-middle-east-conflict


Here is Saif Gaddafi earlier today, brandishing a machine gun extorting people to murder the impudents who dared revolt against injustice: https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=202209169791506&oid=179449562095105&comments

Youtube lins to the same video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHJz56syenY and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fAccZfa7Rs

I knew Human Rights Watch was political and rotten at the top. It's convenient to have more proof.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 07:46 PM
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13. That video of Saif needs to be everywhere. First I've seen of it. Total hypocrite lying POS.
Not that I didn't know this before but there it is in full view.

There are no 200 drugged talaban youths.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:29 PM
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48. I added 2 youtube links, pasted it to my FB and am spreading it around.
I can't think of an end painful enough for him.
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 07:56 PM
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28. he is even far more psychotic than the old man
the clean face that the media falls all over themselves for.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:27 PM
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45. Damning article from the guardian is well worth the read.
Even Vanessa Redgrave gets a smackdown.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:41 PM
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58. Saif: "Keep morale high. Today we end rumours that security forces are with the terrorists."
LibyanDictator The Dictator
Translation: http://on.fb.me/gH8vG6 - Saif: Keep morale high. Today we end rumours that security forces are with the terrorists..
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:46 PM
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64. Saif: I'll show you something (reveals weapon), listen, you'll have support, supplies, weapons >>
LibyanDictator The Dictator
http://on.fb.me/gH8vG6 - Saif: I'll show you something listen, you'll have support, supplies, weapons.. #Libya #Feb17
12 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

Saif: We're sorted we'll be victorious *chants* We're not inviting you for food, this is your country

Saif: ..you must show them, you must take it back. *Chants* Don't leave your country to the 'trash'

Saif: You're not facing an army or anything, they're just scum, trash.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:54 PM
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69. Transcript of Saif's chilling pep talk for murder
Video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHJz56syenY

Transcript:

Saif: The sound my youth listen our moral is high..chanting by crowd god is great..Listen brothers i want to tell you something..

Crowd: We are with you..

Saif: There are rumors that the rebel forces say that there are police men who have joined with rebels but today we show them that the police is with Libya..crowd chants..

Saif: i will tell you something else…

Crowd: (Screams) We want weapons..,

Saif: One minute please listen, the enforcement and support is coming, weapons , money and all the support you need are coming , everything is going well, we are wining…crowds scream insha’Allah.

(Someone whispers something into Saif’s ears)

Crowd: (chants) Allah and Momar and Libya only.. Aljazeera you scum..

Saif: My youth, today we are not inviting for rice and meat..

(crowd chants)

Saif: Listen so the enforcement is coming but our country can only be saved by your courage.. these people you are facing are kids ..

Crowd: (Screams) They are losers and drug addicts..

Saif: Today brothers in Tripoli you show them ..

Crowd: (Chants) With our souls , and our blood we give our lives to you our leader…

Saif: I am leaving now, but tonight in Tripoli show them people..crowd chants..

(Allh wa Mommar wa Libya wa bess) God, Mommar and Libya only..

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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:58 PM
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71. Thanks. When Saif sees 50k *unarmed protesters* coming to Tripoli, all of his "armed citizens"...
...will turn their fucking guns on him.

I hope to fucking GOD someone has a video camera rolling when that happens.

Hopefully a 720p camera so we can see the assassination in all its glory.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 07:33 PM
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2. security forces in Zawiya have gone over to the revolution, cud b begining of end 4 G

MilitantNews MilitantNews
#Libya Fantastic news CNN reports security forces in #Zawiya have gone over to the revolution- that may be a critical turning point
53 seconds ago Favorite Undo Retweet Reply

MilitantNews MilitantNews
#Libya Security forces joining revolution in #Zawiya COULD be the beginning of the end i.e. the collapse of Gaddafi s forces in Tripoli
32 seconds ago Favorite Undo Retweet Reply

MilitantNews MilitantNews 
#Libya Security forces going 2 side of revolution in #Zawiya means a major force on doorstep of Tripoli+ city's other forces may come over 2
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MilitantNews MilitantNews 
#Libya If #Gaddafi forces in #Zawiya near Tripoli have changed sides, then same could happen 4 rebels in city districts of Tajoura+Fashloom
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 07:47 PM
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14. Free Libya' chants heard in city near capital
ZAWIYA, Libya – With residents shouting "Free, free Libya," anti-government rebels who control this battle-scarred city nearest to the capital deployed tanks and anti-aircraft weapons Sunday to brace for an attack by troops loyal to Moammar Gadhafi. The Obama administration offered "any type of assistance" to Libyans seeking to oust the longtime leader.

Politicians in the opposition stronghold of Benghazi set up their first leadership council to manage day-to-day affairs, taking a step toward forming what could be an alternative to Gadhafi's regime.

In the capital Tripoli, where Gadhafi is still firmly in control, state banks began handing out the equivalent of $400 per family in a bid to shore up public loyalty.

"The Libyan people are fully behind me," Gadhafi defiantly told Serbian TV, even as about half of the country was turning against him and world leaders moved to isolate him. "A small group (of rebels) is surrounded ... and it will be dealt with."


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110227/ap_on_re_af/af_libya
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 11:15 PM
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74. LIBYA HURRA -- !!
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 07:34 PM
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3. State TV bringing on religious leaders 2 talk negatively about uprising. Not working
feb17voices Feb 17 voices
Audioboo: LPC #Tripoli: State TV bringing on religious leaders to talk negatively about the uprising. #Libya #Feb17 http://boo.fm/b289544
9 minutes ago

LPC #Tripoli: State TV bringing on religious leaders to talk negatively about the uprising. #Libya #Feb17
11 minutes ago
play

Audio in clear English

http://audioboo.fm/boos/289544-lpc-tripoli-state-tv-bringing-on-religious-leaders-to-talk-negatively-about-the-uprising-libya-feb17

feb17voices Feb 17 voices
LPC #Tripoli: People unaffected by religious figures speaking negatively about uprising on State TV. "It looks like a joke." #Libya #Feb17
8 minutes ago Favorite Undo Retweet Reply
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 07:36 PM
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4. Eyewitness account of Tripoli
Edited on Sun Feb-27-11 07:36 PM by Catherina
LibyaFeb17_com Libyan Youth
Eyewitness account of Tripoli - 27th February - #feb17 #libya - http://www.libyafeb17.com/?p=2949
22 minutes ago Favorite Undo Retweet Reply

Eyewitness account of Tripoli – 27th February
Posted on February 27, 2011 by admin
We relay to you the quote as we received it:
    Today, mood is quiet and tense… heavy efforts made to get people out to work. BUT all the expats are out and no Libyan company (espcially in the oil sector) can function without them.

    So all that are seen open in the streets are gas suppliers, banks with no money (I’ll get to this one), bakeries and grocery stores.

    Banks have been offering all families that present their family books 500 dinars for free. The catch, there’s no money to give them and so there name are just registered down to be given later. It is an attempt to get the people out and film the propaganda to be shown through local media that all is returning to normal. Libya in terms of economics and business is slowly grinding to a halt. If the problem continues for a long period then even the capital will have a humanitarian problem.

    The other thing noticed is the constant passing of planes, military, helicopters and private. Somthing is cooking and its all coming down at Maeteega Military Airport.

    ...

http://www.libyafeb17.com/?p=2949

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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 07:36 PM
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5. recommend
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 07:38 PM
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6. brilliant video on the peaceful protests in Libya, take a minute to hear the chants with one voice

ShababLibya LibyanYouthMovement
http://on.fb.me/eWgpyh brilliant video on the peaceful protests in Libya, take a minute to hear the chants with one voice #Libya #Feb17
6 minutes ago Favorite Undo Retweet Reply

https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=202214259790997&oid=179449562095105&comments
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 07:50 PM
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18. Oh my god. I have tears in my eyes watching that. Oh my god.
Edited on Sun Feb-27-11 07:51 PM by joshcryer
Full on crying now. I'm saving this video for later, it is unbelievably powerful. Free Libya!
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 07:53 PM
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23. Beautiful!
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 07:38 PM
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7. important for the organisers of protests across the world to focus on the need for medical aid
ShababLibya LibyanYouthMovement
It is important for the organisers of protests across the world to focus on the need for medical aid in Libya #Feb17 #Libya #gaddaficrimes
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 07:39 PM
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8. "i have videos, but they are after me - they will catch me"
Posted on AJE Live Blog - Libya Feb 27:

6:23pm AJE source who was shot in the leg with rubber bullets on Friday says:

Tripoli is a civil city no weapons here; we just fight with stones, even the ambulances are full of mercenaries ... you have to sign a document that you agree that your son/daughter was killed by protesters or they won't release the body ... lot of people have gone missing ... kidnapped from outside their houses, people paid 7000 dinars to kidnap ... my friends were shot by snipers on Friday ... they died, and an old man died in front of him as well ...around 40,000 people were protesting ... there many snipers around -i have videos, but they are after me - they will catch me.

http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/africa/live-blog-libya-feb-27
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 07:43 PM
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11. Just breaks my heart. We have 2 do our part for the world and dismantle the MIC
We need to stop the criminal international government-approved arms mafia fron the US, France, Germany, the UK, Russia, etc.

There's NO reason justification for that evil.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 07:50 PM
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19. Couldn't agree more Catherina!
It is now the job of the major Western nations to stop selling arms around the world.

I wonder who sold Saif that machine gun he's weilding?

It has all been evil. When you read the Wikileaks cables and see how calmly they talked about doing business with these dangerous, insane people, it is truly chilling. All for greed and oil.

Now, the people of these countries have an obligation to change their governments and to demand a complete change of Foreign policy that has led to so much destruction around the world.

It is all blowing up in their faces now. Sad that so many have to die to make it happen, but that blood is on the hands of those who profited in any way, politically or financially, from the suffering of these people.

There should be a Hall of Shame somewhere, exposing all of them. Put there by the people of the world and demanding accountability for these crimes against humanity.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 11:20 PM
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75. US, UK, France -- every weapon sold represents harm to us all -- STOP!!
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 07:39 PM
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9. Palestinians to pick new cabinet on Facebook,
Dima_Khatib Dima Khatib أنا ديمة
Palestinians to pick new cabinet on Facebook, following PM Salam Fayyad’s invitation to participate #Palestine #fb
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 07:40 PM
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10. Gaddafi still has Sebha in south desert with some thousands of Chad tribesmen.>>

MilitantNews MilitantNews 
#Libya #Gaddafi still has Sebha in south desert with some thousands of Chad tribesmen. I wonder if nutter would try 2 fight from there?crazy
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 07:46 PM
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12. tripoli now has the most concentrated mix of regime forces, hidden.afraid 2 go out >>
AliTweel Ali Tweel
tripoli now has the most concentrated mix of regime forces, hidden. now in tripoli they afraid 2 go in march & get shot from inside the demo
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 07:48 PM
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15. Benghazi: We are not celebrating until #Tripoli & all of #Libya is free. "They are our brothers"
Edited on Sun Feb-27-11 07:50 PM by Catherina
feb17voices Feb 17 voices
Audioboo: LPC #Benghazi: We are not celebrating until #Tripoli & all of #Libya is free. "They are our brothers" #Feb17 http://boo.fm/b289572
22 minutes ago


LPC #Benghazi: We are not celebrating until #Tripoli & all of #Libya is free. "They are our brothers" #Feb17
24 minutes ago
play

AUDIO. simultaneous translation into English

http://audioboo.fm/boos/289572-lpc-benghazi-we-are-not-celebrating-until-tripoli-all-of-libya-is-free-they-are-our-brothers-feb17


"Not east, not west. We want national unity. #Libya is one nation.
We continue to hold demonstrations in #Benghazi in solidarity with the people in #Tripoli."
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 07:48 PM
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16. k&r nt
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 07:48 PM
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17. entire family in tajoura murdered inside their car, gray Chevrolet optra, mercs took papers & bodies
AliTweel Ali Tweel
an entire family in tajoura has been murdered inside their car, I wonder if u saw it, a gray Chevrolet optra, mercs they took papers&bodies.
22 minutes ago
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 07:50 PM
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20. Libya does not want military intervention from any country but a no-fly zone may become necessary.
Tripolitanian Libyan
#Libya does not want military intervention from any country at this point, however, a no-fly zone may become necessary.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 07:51 PM
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21. Libya does not want ANY nation to put their boots on its ground. This is OUR revolution.
Tripolitanian Libyan
#Libya does not want ANY nation to put their boots on its ground. This is OUR revolution.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 07:52 PM
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22. do not want 2 become like Egypt, having 2 rely on US military $ & allowing US to control our FP
Edited on Sun Feb-27-11 07:52 PM by Catherina
Tripolitanian Libyan
#Libya does not want to become like #Egypt, having to rely on US military $'s - allowing US to control Egyptian foreign policy
16 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

:yourock:
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:02 PM
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32. And Lybia does not want to become like Iraq!
@Tripolitanian
Libyan
#Libya does not want to become like #Iraq - where the population was mentally, physically, sexually abused by foreign soldiers
24 minutes ago


They know what having foreign troops in their country will do to them.

Iraq is a tragic example foreign invasions and it's mind-blowing to think that this country is still pretending that Iraq is a democracy now and everything is just fine.

The truth is being broadcast by these revolutions.

Iraq being used as an example of the abuse of the Western powers says it all.


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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 07:54 PM
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24. or 2 become like Iraq, where popl was mentally, physically, sexually abused by foreign soldiers
Tripolitanian Libyan
#Libya does not want to become like #Iraq - where the population was mentally, physically, sexually abused by foreign soldiers
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 07:54 PM
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25. or become like #Iran - where there is an obvious false sense of democracy
Tripolitanian Libyan
#Libya does not want to become like #Iran - where there is an obvious false sense of democracy
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 07:56 PM
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26. Once #Libya is free, we'll learn from mistakes of others, we'll diversify our economy, oil will >>
Tripolitanian Libyan
Once #Libya is a free nation, we will learn from the mistakes of others, we will diversify our economy, oil will no longer be so important
15 minutes ago

I say again Libyan youth, :yourock:
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 07:56 PM
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27. to USAmbNATO SPEAKING FOR ALL LIBYANS. NO, we don't want foreign boots on #Libyan soil
Tripolitanian Libyan
@USAmbNATO SPEAKING FOR ALL LIBYANS. NO, we don't want foreign boots on #Libyan soil.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 07:58 PM
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29. we're tired of oppressive regimes. We used2b known 4 science, math, philosophy- now its all OIL
Tripolitanian Libyan
The #Libyans, & Arabs in general, are tired of these oppressive regimes. We used to be known for science, math, philosophy - now its all OIL
12 minutes ago
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 07:59 PM
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30. We don't want weapons either, we aren't trying to start a war.
Tripolitanian Libyan
@
@Mark4124NH @USAmbNATO We don't want weapons either, we aren't trying to start a war.
9 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Replyotest&aq=1

:yourock:

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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:01 PM
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31. just found out that a close friend is with the regime... seizure possibility >>
AliTweel Ali Tweel
i just found out that a close friend is with the regime. i was talking freely with him. there is a seizure possibility.
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AliTweel Ali Tweel
this is an example of why people are not going in demos in tripoli, you don't know who is a friend.
22 minutes ago
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:05 PM
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33. Christiane Amanpour's Interview With Gadhafi's Sons
Edited on Sun Feb-27-11 08:06 PM by Catherina
ZahratTrablis Zahrat El
@
@septimius_sever like check this out http://tiny.cc/uhbak
14 minutes ago

Christiane Amanpour's Interview With Gadhafi's Sons

Someone shut that woman up. Has she ever met a dictator she didn't love? How low can you crawl Christiane?
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:11 PM
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35. I thought it was a good interview, to see Saif squirm is great, even if her questions were soft.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:31 PM
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51. Thanks for that information. I couldn't watch it past her introduction
Just the sound of her voice sends me into a rage.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:36 PM
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55. He didn't say anything new except that now he's admitting that the "rebels" are youths wanting...
...change. She then likened him to a kind reformer and he was all "I wish I worked faster to do the reforms."

Fucking asshole.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:10 PM
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34. Saadi #Gaddafi on #ABC: 'this will prevent me from going hunting & going on safari'. >>
libya_7orra Libya 7orra
Saadi #Gaddafi on #ABC 'this will prevent me from going hunting & going on safari'... U ARE DOING JUST THAT to #libya's people #feb17
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:11 PM
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36. I just saw that part. "I need to hire a lawyer." He was laughing. He appears to see the truth though
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:24 PM
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43. Does he really see the truth?
Remember what he said in another recent interview:

LIBYA: Moammar Kadafi will remain nation's 'big father,' son says
February 23, 2011 | 2:10 pm

Libyan leader Moammar Kadafi will play a major role in any new regime formed in the country, his son told the Financial Times on Wednesday.

"My father would stay as the big father who advises," Saadi Kadafi told the Financial Times by telephone from the Libyan capital, Tripoli. He also asserted that up to 85% of the country was "very calm and very safe."

He said the regime would recover the eastern part of the country "sooner or later."

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2011/02/libya-moammar-kadafi-will-remain-nations-big-father-son-says-.html

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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:31 PM
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50. Feb. 23: "He said the regime would recover" Feb. 27: "No one will stop it." Yeah, he knows he's done
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:12 PM
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38. "It is going to spread, everywhere. No one will stop it." "The chaos will spread everywhere."
"Everyone wants freedom, you want freedom, I want freedom. But chaos is not freedom."

Idiot. At least you admit the force is unstoppable, but it is not chaos.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:30 PM
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49. Was he the one who said if you give the people something, they only want more?
With so much going on, it's sometimes hard to keep track of who said what.

Either that or my memory's going... :)
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:34 PM
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52. No idea, but he's going to "go on safari" and appears to be ditching. No plans to "Die in Libya."
I was really pissed off with the "cute face" ABC showed at the end of that fucked up interview. People dying on the streets and they're interviewing a rich plutocrat (who self admittedly is getting out of dodge, hiring a lawyer, going on safari, etc). It was really odd.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:12 PM
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37. G left w\ Sirte (hometown) & Tripoli (capital)- if either falls >>
Tripolitanian Libyan
#Gaddafi is left with Sirte (hometown) and Tripoli (capital) - next tweets will explain what happens if either fall. #Libya
12 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply


If Sirte falls: it was barrier between pro-democracy protesters (and army) moving from East to West, #Gaddafi crumbles within 1 week

If Tripoli falls: the capital, home of 2 million, opposition quickly takes control of gov, #Gaddafi crumbles in hours to day
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:14 PM
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40. "If Tripoli falls, Gaddafi crumbles in hours to day." HURRA LIBYA!
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:13 PM
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39.  Demoralize the enemy from within by surprise,terror,sabotage, assassination. >>>
septimius_sever septimius severus
RT" Demoralize the enemy from within by surprise,terror,sabotage, assassination.This is the war of the future" Hitler, Sound familiar? #libya
11 minutes ago
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:16 PM
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41. Video: Soldiers Were 'Burned Alive' By Their Own Forces For Refusing To Fight Protesters


I lost the tweet but here's the video. Sky News report.

Soldiers Were 'Burned Alive' By Their Own Forces For Refusing To Fight Protesters
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ3xOj9EJy0
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:27 PM
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44. Good report, I am glad the media can see for themselves what is going on.
A plus that it's media over there as I can't see CNN doing a report like that.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 11:24 PM
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76. High level of insanity or brainwashing among troops to turn on their own -- !!
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:24 PM
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42. JPMorgan Fund Seeks Minority Stake in Twitter
C0d3Fr0sty Anonymous
Another greedy corporation tries to sink it's teeth in online social media http://nyti.ms/gLdNqF #Twitter #JPMorgan #Anonymous
7 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply


JP Morgan going after twitter, Saudi King going after Facebook. Got the message.

JPMorgan Fund Seeks Minority Stake in Twitter
BY MICHAEL J. DE LA MERCED AND ANDREW ROSS SORKIN

Saeed Khan/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images
8:05 p.m. | Updated

JPMorgan Chase’s new fund aimed at investing in social-media companies is seeking to buy a minority stake in Twitter that could value the micro-messaging site at close to $4.5 billion, people briefed on the matter told DealBook on Sunday.

It is not clear whether the fund, known as the J.P. Morgan Digital Growth Fund, will invest directly in Twitter or directly buy up current investors’ stakes with the company’s consent, these people said. They cautioned that talks were ongoing and may not lead to a deal.

Investments by the fund are expected to extend to other parts of the social-media universe, a broad and rapidly expanding group of companies ranging from the gaming giant Zynga to group-coupon providers like LivingSocial.

Spokesmen for Twitter and JPMorgan declined to comment.

...

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/02/27/jpmorgan-fund-seeks-minority-stake-in-twitter/?hp
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:28 PM
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47. You do realize the Saudi King thing was a joke, don't you?
The site linked explicitly said at the bottom "this is for humor only."
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:34 PM
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53. Thank you. No I didn't. I asked if someone could check but got no answers
That's very good to know. It wouldn't have surprised me if he were.

There's a lot of big international money at stake if Libya goes down.

Imagine a united Middle East at peace, what would all the arms dealers, mercenaries, neocon machine do?

Really now world, wouldn't it be so much easier to live in peace?
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:40 PM
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57. I don't think he could've bought it due to international trade issues, anyway.
When this is all over I'd love to talk to you about a speech Eben Moglen gave about these social networking sites, though.

He said in his latest speech (I'll summarize at the bottom if you can't read this):

They are too centralized, they are too vulnerable to state retaliation and control. The design of their technology, like the design of almost all unfree software technology, is motivated more by business interests seeking profit than by technological interests seeking freedom.

As a result of which, we are watching political movements of enormous value, capable of transforming the lives of hundreds of millions of people, resting on a fragile basis, like, for example, the courage of Mr. Zuckerberg, or the willingness of Google to resist the state, where the state is a powerful business partner and a party Google cannot afford frequently to insult.


Too long to read version: twitter being down the other day may have cost someone their lives. FB or twitter being taken down can kill someone. So we have to make alternatives because we cannot rely on for-profit corporations.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:42 PM
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60. How do we go about beating our swords into plowshares?
I just asked this rhetorical question on another thread, and I'm asking it again now. The so-called "defense" (war) industry is just about the only one America hasn't outsourced, at least not to any great extent. Plus there are all the arms dealers, mercenaries, etc. making a killing (literally) off perpetual war. It's to their advantage to keep it going forever at the expense of the rest of humanity.

How to stop it? I wish I knew.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 11:31 PM
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77. Near as I can see ....

Labor has to decide to STOP working for and enabling corporatism --

and STOP paying the taxes which fund it.

Believe we can find a way -- WHEN Americans become committed to ending

MIC, capitalism/corporatism -- that day may be coming!


For another, I think LABOR has to unite unto itself -- forget company by company.

All LABOR should simply join together, in charge of its own labor, setting its

prices for the labor and the conditions. Beginning of it has to be based on solidarity!

All of us supporting the other, until we either move into the abandoned businesses and

restart them -- or businesses that exist now begin to negotiate with this idea.


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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:38 PM
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56. Which site? I translated a French article that said nothing about this being a joke
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:41 PM
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59. Give me a minute, I have to find it again. Other sites are reporting it as true, but the original...
...says it is a joke.
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:48 PM
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65. here it is
http://dawnwires.com/politics/saudi-king-to-buy-facebook-to-end-the-revolt/
you will see it at the bottom of the article.

maybe not satire...
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:50 PM
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68. I wish people would be more careful with their sources. :(
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:57 PM
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70. "may or may not be the truth". The French article reported this as truth
"may or may not be the truth" doesn't leave me much to disbelieve this for the moment, especially with so much at stake.

Let's keep an eye out on this.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 09:02 PM
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72. The French article cited Dawnwires. Dawnwires posted it as their *humor* article.
w/e believe what you want to believe.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:48 PM
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66. Here it is, I was trying to find it in your posts, because you did post it, it just wasn't linked:
http://dawnwires.com/politics/saudi-king-to-buy-facebook-to-end-the-revolt/

It was a shorturl that didn't have an http so it didn't turn into a link.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:28 PM
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46. Gaddafi calls the protestors "rebels" as an insult. Foreign media should not repeat Gaddafi's insult
SaloumehZ SaloumehZ
Gaddafi calls the protestors "rebels" as an insult. Foreign media should not repeat Gaddafi's insulting term "rebels." #Libya
4 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

I agree. You're revolutionaries, citizens, not rebels.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:35 PM
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54. Reason why #Gaddafi hasn't left: He cut off internet for entire country, can't access expedia.com.

Tripolitanian Libyan
Reason why #Gaddafi hasn't left: He cut off internet for entire country, can't access expedia.com. #Libya
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:42 PM
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61. Thank you Catherina
Thank you.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:44 PM
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62. Delete wrong place n/t
Edited on Sun Feb-27-11 08:46 PM by Catherina
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:45 PM
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63. How to join Anonymous - A beginners guide
C0d3Fr0sty Anonymous
How to join Anonymous - A beginners guide http://bit.ly/gAZFrC #recruit #Anonymous #freedom
11 minutes ago


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQk14FLDPZg
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:50 PM
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67. Temporary delete. Linked xscript here and moved above n/t
Edited on Sun Feb-27-11 08:58 PM by Catherina
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 09:04 PM
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73. Day 12, Part 1 here
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