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luvspeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 02:37 PM
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Walker Welding Capitol Windows NOW to Keep Workers from Passing Food to Those Inside
As we speak, Gov. Scott Walker & the Senate R’s are literally having the windows of the capital welded shut to keep people from passing food into the building to the people inside.

http://blog.aflcio.org/2011/02/28/walker-welding-capitol-windows-now-to-keep-workers-from-passing-food-to-those-inside/
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 02:39 PM
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1. He is planning to STARVE Wisconsin citizens?
What would the charge be? Attempted mass murder?
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 04:12 PM
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51. The charge would probably be "false imprisonment"
Unless of course they have the choice to leave the building.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 02:39 PM
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2. That's got to be some sort of fire violation, or something.
He's completely bonkers.

:crazy:
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 02:40 PM
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5. Maybe the Fire Dept. of Madison could weigh in?
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 02:42 PM
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7. I think they should.
That is just terribly wrong.

And it looks like an act of desperation...welding the windows shut, I mean.

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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 03:03 PM
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31. Ed Schultz said that 100 firefighters tried to get in and were stopped at the door
Heard this within the last hour or so when I was driving to the grocery.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 02:50 PM
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19. Good point. And what damage will unwelding those windows do to the building?
Not to mention the cost?
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 04:59 PM
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66. False alarm -- story not true .... ?
Edited on Mon Feb-28-11 05:09 PM by defendandprotect
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 02:40 PM
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3. Hunger Strike!!
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 02:43 PM
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10. This is NOT a hunger strike. This is an attempt to starve people out.
A hunger strike is entered willingly. Make sure you understand the distinction. This is WALKER endangering the health of peaceful protesters.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 02:44 PM
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11. Let me reword that. Time for a HUNGER STRIKE! to draw attention to Walker's insanity.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 02:49 PM
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17. In sympathy with those involuntarily starving?
You would completely confuse the issue. People would have trouble distinguishing the two forms of starvation and the press would deliberately make it worse.

It would end up with millions of people convinced the protesters decided to starve as a last ditch effort to make their point.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 03:57 PM
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47. I'm more worried about the fire hazard.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 02:40 PM
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4. Somehow that seems like it should be terribly illegal
I hope it is not union workers doing the welding.
For that matter why would any worker do something for Walker?
Must be his toadies doing the welding, so probably a lousy job.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 04:14 PM
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52. Every commercial and government building I've been in for the last 25 years has windows that don't..
...open.
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 02:41 PM
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6. STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE!;;..........
How many people are outside at the Capitol?
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 02:42 PM
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8. Our attorneys are collecting affidavits from the people who witnessed this, along with people who

"Our attorneys are collecting affidavits from the people who witnessed this, along with people who have been illegally denied access to a public, government, building.

"We will be filing for a TRO to open the Capitol."
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 02:45 PM
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15. Bless you and protect all of you.
This bastard would be happy to kill you. But he does worry about the PR.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 02:43 PM
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9. That's got to be a fire code violation. I assume somebody is checking on that.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 02:44 PM
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12. THIS guy has lost it. He is cooked.
This will never fly with the public.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 03:05 PM
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34. Except if it goes unreported by the media.
I'm furiouus over the lack of coverage.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 02:45 PM
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13. Is he using non union (scab) welders?
I agree with the people above, that should be a violation of fire regulations.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 02:50 PM
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21. They'd weld themselves in.
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City of Mills Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 02:45 PM
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14. So now he's taking hostages??
For real?
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 02:46 PM
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16. This is getting all more than a little weird. Is this the new style of government? I fear
it is. This guy may have a few mental issues.

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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 02:49 PM
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18. The server at blog.aflcio.org has timed out. Either overloaded or taken down? n/t
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 02:50 PM
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20. same thing happened to me as well n/t
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 02:54 PM
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23. root nameservers not answering
Big trouble.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 02:55 PM
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24. Interesting. Forced down maybe. n/t
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 03:12 PM
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37. I was wrong about that. They are up, but DU's service provider hasn't updated their DNS entry
Edited on Mon Feb-28-11 03:13 PM by kenny blankenship
or something of a less catastrophic nature. I was misinterpreting "no answer" replies from my nameserver to mean it couldn't contact any root dns server. Brainfart. Maybe the aflcio site has the same provider.
#dig democraticunderground.com

; <<>> DiG 9.6.2-P3 <<>> democraticunderground.com
;; global options: +cmd
;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached

But other domains resolve just fine.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 03:12 PM
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38. aflcio.org loads but blog.aflcio.org does not.
I know that you can point a subdomain at a different IP address. Can you point it at different nameservers?
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 02:53 PM
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22. Is there any confirmation of this? I can't get to the blog in the link.
Who wrote it? Did the person who wrote this witness it?

It sounds a little far-fetched to me, to be frank.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 02:59 PM
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26. Here it is coming in this way ...
Edited on Mon Feb-28-11 03:03 PM by RKP5637
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 03:05 PM
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33. That just references the same blog in the link.
I want some independent confirmation. Lots of crap gets posted. Not all of it's even true. I hate seeing stuff that isn't correct get spread all over the Internet. It never gets corrected.

This just has the smell of bullshit on it, in my opinion.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 03:07 PM
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36. It's all a little weird. Yep, there is so much BS anymore it's hard to step over it ...
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 03:19 PM
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41. This one looks good?
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 03:28 PM
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43. Nah. It has the same source, just rewritten.
Damn...now that it's on FDL, it'll spread like wildfire, whether it's accurate or not. Probably will be posted 20 times just on DU.

I wish people would wait for confirmation on stories like this one. Blogs are not news sources.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 03:54 PM
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46. Concern noted. n/t
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 03:59 PM
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48. I don't take your snarky point, I'm afraid.
Surely you're aware of the many stories that have proven to be inaccurate that have been posted on DU. I'm just someone who wants confirmation of stories, particularly those that make little sense.

But, I guess it's good that you're concerned about my concern. :shrug:
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 04:28 PM
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55. See this link:
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 04:22 PM
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54. It's like walking on wet paint! It tracks all over the place! LOL n/t
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 04:28 PM
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56. Well, the story was false, as I suspected.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 04:34 PM
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60. Good job on having advised caution!!! n/t
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 04:35 PM
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61. I'm a cautious guy when it comes to stories from blog pages.
I always want to see independent confirmation before I can take them seriously.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 07:52 AM
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74. This Twitter user is inside and sent pics. Bolts - not welding
http://twitter.com/#!/mad_city_mom

mad_city_mom DeWald Mama
#wiunion I confirm that the bathroom windows have indeed been "sealed". See the picture for an image. http://yfrog.com/gyntrirj

http://yfrog.com/gyntrirj
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 02:56 PM
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25. Shades of the Triangle fire.
Aren't there enough firemen there to write this ass a citation?
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 03:00 PM
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27. Walker is in deep s*it, if this information is true.
This can't be allowed under any circumstances.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 04:29 PM
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58. FDL says not true. One window latch being fixed.
Although that does seem an odd way to fix a window that doesn't seem to have been "fixed" that way before. However, if it is only one window and all the others are fine, then the story is over.
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 03:03 PM
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30. Reminds me. PBS is airing Triangle Fire tonight as part of
American Experience series.

Very timely.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 03:13 PM
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39. 1991: 25 dead when NC workers cannot escape fire - Exits locked to prevent thefts of chicken parts
http://www.nytimes.com/1992/09/15/us/meat-plant-owner-pleads-guilty-in-a-blaze-that-killed-25-people.html

Meat-Plant Owner Pleads Guilty In a Blaze That Killed 25 People
Published: September 15, 1992

ROCKINGHAM, N.C., Sept. 14 — The owner of a chicken processing plant where 25 people died in a fire last year pleaded guilty today and was sentenced to nearly 20 years in prison.

In a surprise plea agreement, the owner of Imperial Food Products Inc., Emmett J. Roe, admitted 25 counts of involuntary manslaughter. As part of the agreement, the state dropped charges against two managers at the plant, James N. Hair and Brad M. Roe, the owner's son.

The agreement averted a criminal trial in one of the nation's worst industrial accidents.

Twenty-four workers at the plant, which cooked chicken for fast-food chains, and a delivery man died Sept. 3, 1991, after hydraulic fluid from a conveyor belt under repair sprayed over a gas-fired chicken fryer at the company's plant in Hamlet, N.C. A fireball filled the plant with dense, toxic smoke. Fifty-six workers were injured, and more than 150 others were left without jobs because the plant closed. No Sprinklers or Alarm

State officials have said that the plant, the leading employer in Hamlet, 60 miles southwest of Fayetteville, had no fire alarm or sprinkler system and that its exits were unmarked and doors were locked when the fire occurred. North Carolina's occupational-safety agency said a shortage of inspectors and inadequate resources had prevented the state from inspecting Imperial Food in the 11 years the company has operated.

After the fire, the state fined the company, whose headquarters is in Cummings, Ga., $808,150, the largest such fine the state had ever levied.

more...
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 05:11 PM
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71. Little by little, we get used to right wing violence -- starts to seem normal--!!!
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 03:00 PM
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28. He's really obsessed with these people, isn't he?
What next?
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 03:02 PM
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29. I heard this on Ed's show as I was just driving home from the grocery store
This is seriously nuts.
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 03:04 PM
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32. k&r nr
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 03:05 PM
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35. Wow, now that's insane shit right there. Kinda good though because they are over-playing their hand.
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 03:18 PM
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40. More details - full text
Just managed to get through to site.

Here's full text:


Walker Welding Capitol Windows NOW to Keep Workers from Passing Food to Those Inside

http://blog.aflcio.org/2011/02/28/walker-welding-capitol-windows-now-to-keep-workers-from-passing-food-to-those-inside/

by Tula Connell, Feb 28, 2011

This from AFL-CIO Political Communications Director Eddie Vale who’s on the ground in Madison, Wis.

As we speak, Gov. Scott Walker & the Senate R’s are literally having the windows of the capital welded shut to keep people from passing food into the building to the people inside.

Our attorneys are collecting affidavits from the people who witnessed this, along with people who have been illegally denied access to a public, government, building.

We will be filing for a TRO to open the Capitol.

It is a sad for democracy when Governor Walker and his R Senate allies are locking the people of Wisconsin out of their own state capitol.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 03:20 PM
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42. Still waiting for independent confirmation on this.
I still suspect that it's incorrect. We'll see.
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 03:35 PM
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44. from twitter, FWIW...


matt_t1 Matt T by EVictoriaF
latest rumor: not welding. But, are bolting windows and then removing tops of the bolts. Effectively making impossible to open. #WIunion
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 05:14 PM
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72. Not a rumor they ARE Bolting the windows & cutting off tops.
Edited on Mon Feb-28-11 05:18 PM by eowyn_of_rohan
?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1298932255&Signature=aEeWhruyWTdkzYoLRU8ru6WueiU%3D

That it is being done to keep people from giving food to others inside is a rumor, however.
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 03:35 PM
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45. FDL update
http://news.firedoglake.com/

UPDATE on this: I’m hearing that a window latch simply needed repair, and that a women’s room latch was always screwed shut. So this may not be quite so nefarious.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 04:17 PM
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53. Hmm...could be correct. That's the trouble with these stories that
have no independent confirmation. It's too late now to correct the story, which will appear on hundreds of blogs and websites over the next week. It makes my point that blogs are not news sources. Anything posted on a blog needs to be researched to check for independent confirmation. Otherwise, we end up posting a bunch of crap that isn't true, and that helps nobody.
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 04:30 PM
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59. Actually, I'd say it shows FDL being responsible and updating
as needed.

And they're putting it directly under the now-crossed out text of the original post, unlike say the NYT did with their anti-union piece.

They now have another update at http://news.firedoglake.com/
UPDATE to the UPDATE: Not being there right now, I don’t know what to believe. But you should check out Eric Ming’s pics.



The name links to a blog that has pictures of the windows with bolts with the tops taken off. This looks to me likely where this originated and I give FDL credit for tracking it down and updating.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 04:41 PM
Response to Reply #59
64. Yes, FDL did make a correction. But, the first posting here on
DU was from some AFL/CIO blog, which is where the FDL writer found the story, too. All unconfirmed, and in error. The story is on dozens of websites already, without the correction, and will soon be on hundreds. Moving on stories before they are confirmed is a serious mistake.

FDL made a correction, and good for them for doing so. Sadly, many other sites will not correct the misinformation, which will be circulating for weeks. We'll probably even see the uncorrected story again here on DU more than once.

Blogs are not News, unless confirmed.
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 05:10 PM
Response to Reply #64
70. Again, I think FDL doing this, doing it rapidly and placing
the correction next to the original piece demonstrates good reporting.
All "News" sources have run stories that have errors.

In this case a blog followed up on, verified and corrected a story and has since updated with more info, more rapidly and with better placement than many News sources do.


Again, the recent NYT story is a good example of a high-profile "News" source running a story on the front page, then printing the correction in mid-paper.

http://foknewschannel.com/new-york-times-punkd-by-anti-union-plant/



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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 04:05 PM
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49. Recommend!
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 04:09 PM
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50. Should the local Fire Dept. be notified...?
If this is correct, shouldn't the local Fire Dept be notified of what appears to be a fire-hazard in the making?
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 04:29 PM
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57. This story is incorrect. No such thing occurred. See the link below:
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luvspeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 05:00 PM
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67. Well now you can just throw yourself a little nyah nyahhy boo boo party...
So what? I posted a story with a link...the original link, I might add. I didn't say it was true, and actually neither did the AFL-CIO. they said they were investigating. What everyone else did with it does not negate the validity of the original story. Man, did you really have to post 15 times to tell everyone how much more superior you think you are? JEEZ.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 05:02 PM
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68. You have a nice day, won't you?
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 07:52 AM
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75. This Twitter user is inside and sent pics. Bolts - not welding
http://yfrog.com/gyntrirj

#wiunion I confirm that the bathroom windows have indeed been "sealed". See the picture for an image.
posted by @mad_city_mom from Twitter for iPhone 8 hours 52 mins ago
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Badfish Donating Member (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 04:37 PM
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62. unrec for BS
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avebury Donating Member (455 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 04:41 PM
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63. Pressure increasing for missing Senate Democrats
Republican Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald is trying to increase the pressure on 14 Senate Democrats who skipped town on Feb. 17 to avoid passage of a bill taking away collective bargaining rights.

Fitzgerald is proposing that he, instead of the Democratic senators, be given the authority to review and approve timesheets for those who work for the Democrats.

He would also deactivate copy machine access codes for the missing senators' offices.

http://www.wfrv.com/news/local/Pressure-increasing-for-missing-Senate-Democrats--117086853.html
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 04:58 PM
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65. Unbelievable -- just heard that on Schultz!!
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kiranon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 05:07 PM
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69. Time to invite Al Jeezerah (sp?) to cover these human rights violation and
placing citizens in danger. Perhaps charges will be brought against Walker before the World Court should any harm come to the people in the Capitol Building or elsewhere because of his actions.
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we can do it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 07:50 AM
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73. Well That's a Way To Save Money
wtf - isn't that a fire hazard, too?
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 07:53 AM
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76. For anyone doubting - This Twitter user is inside and sent pics. Bolts - not welding
#wiunion I confirm that the bathroom windows have indeed been "sealed". See the picture for an image.
posted by @mad_city_mom from Twitter for iPhone 8 hours 52 mins ago

http://yfrog.com/gyntrirj
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