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The Northerner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 06:11 PM
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South Carolina Bill Would Overturn Federal Light Bulb Ban
February 28th, 2011, Fairfax, VA—Americans for Limited Government (ALG) President Bill Wilson today urged passage of a bill by South Carolina State Representatives Bill Sandifer and Dwight Loftis that would allow the manufacture and purchase of incandescent light bulbs in South Carolina that are subject to a federal ban that begins to take effect in Jan. 2012.

"State Representatives Sandifer and Loftis are taking the lead in protecting the rights of South Carolina consumers, who don't want the federal government telling them which light bulbs they must use," Wilson said.

"The basic concept of the bill is to allow the citizens of South Carolina to be able to continue to buy incandescent light bulbs," said State Representative Bill Sandifer, Chairman of the House Labor, Commerce and Industry Committee.

"It is my strong belief that the feds have overstepped the Tenth Amendment, and now are venturing into telling us what kinds of lighting we can have in our homes," Sandifer added.

But how can the federal government ban light bulbs? "They are trying to use again as they have so often done, the Commerce Clause. But I have a real problem with Big Brother intruding in how I live in my home," Sandifer declared.

Read more: http://www.kiowacountysignal.com/topstories/x1580326220/South-Carolina-Bill-Would-Overturn-Federal-Light-Bulb-Ban
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 06:21 PM
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1. There is no law banning incandescent bulbs
Edited on Mon Feb-28-11 06:24 PM by salvorhardin
The law merely sets energy efficiency requirements, similar to fuel efficiency requirements in cars, that incandescent bulbs will not be able to meet unless there is some kind of breakthrough in manufacturing them. That's why the major light bulb manufacturers have already come up with compact halogen bulbs for uses where compact fluorescents and LEDs aren't suitable. Furthermore, high wattage and low wattage incandescents, such as are used in specialty applications (outdoor lighting, Christmas tree lamps, nightlights) are exempted. Nor does the law privilege CFLs over other technologies.
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 06:32 PM
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2. What's the difference?
Either way, it's a ban against the present day common incandescent bulb.

Put a whole bunch of Americans out of work in the process, by the way. Union jobs too.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 06:43 PM
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4. How does it put anyone out of work?
They still make light bulbs just not the ones that are so wasteful..Same as making the auto companies put cataletic converters in all cars..Some things government just has to do because corporations simply won't unless forced to.
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 06:47 PM
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6. Because those jobs go straight to China
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/07/AR2010090706933.html

Of the lightbulbs that are to remain legal, none of them are actually made here.

Incandescent bulbs are were made here. Not anymore.

Are the projected benefits worth the consequences?
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 07:04 PM
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9. Why aren't they manufactured in America??
Or should I say, why doesn't anyone manufacture them in America?
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 08:39 PM
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11. LOL where do you even begin to answer that question
This country is too fucked up to do business in? Too much corruption and red tape and the highest corp tax in the world and the still unresolved health care financing situation is a toxic brew of anti-businessfectant.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 09:13 PM
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12. Not sure how to respond to this. I think I will hold my thoughts on this one.
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 10:15 PM
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15. Scott Walker? Is that you? n/t
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 11:30 PM
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16. It take both your brain cells to come up with that, or just one?
Looks to me like you're the one being cavalier about union jobs here. Several posts into the thread already, you have yet to articulate a good reason why these jobs had to be shipped to China.
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 06:46 PM
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5. Funny, because in other countries that have set energy efficiency requirements
It has actually led to increased choices in lighting and created jobs.
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 07:01 PM
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8. Show me a country that has gained jobs from higher efficiency requirements
and I'll show you a country that manufactures higher efficiency bulbs.

So besides China, who has done such a thing?
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fittosurvive Donating Member (538 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 06:35 PM
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3. I can't say I blame them.
While I use CFLs for many applications, I do not like the color. Furthermore, the dimming features are pathetic. They flicker, they buzz and they give me a headache.

Incandescent bulbs should remain an option.
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 06:48 PM
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7. GE's new halogens might be an option
I like incandescents for reading because CFLs are too "cold". These new halogens which fit in a traditional socket might be a solution. Not as efficient as CFLs, but much more efficient (20%) than Edison bulbs.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-11128_3-20031803-54.html

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fittosurvive Donating Member (538 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 07:45 PM
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10. These halogens are more efficient than the ones I've used in the past.
If they have an improved life-cycle too, they may indeed by an option.
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devils chaplain Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 11:32 PM
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17. A compromise?
Keep selling incandescent bulbs, but include a carbon-offset tax on each one.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 09:21 PM
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13. Wow! It's like Fort Sumter, only with light bulbs!
:sarcasm:
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 10:02 PM
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14. +1000!
:headbang:
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