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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 02:38 AM
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Chris Cillizza Thinks Pissing Off Liberals With Tax Cut Deal Made Obama 'Look Big'
December 21, 2010 04:00 AM
Chris Cillizza Thinks Pissing Off Liberals With Tax Cut Deal Made Obama 'Look Big'

By Heather

http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/chris-cillizza-thinks-pissing-liberals-tax



As Digby noted, apparently the hippie punching by Obama has the Villagers terribly excited... and losing 8% of liberals while gaining 5% of moderates adds up to a big "win" in the eyes of Chris Matthews and Chris Cillizza.

The New Compromise:

Whether or not it made Obama look "bigger" to the country is unknown. But hitting the left where it hurts certainly made him look like a big, big hero to the Villagers. And I feel quite confident that the White House knew that would happen. After all, it's not like it's an original tactic.


And as she also noted in that same post, the "gasbags" over at CNN were talking about Obama alienating his base as well and basically saying it didn't matter since they had no where else to go and I agree with her on this point.

I'd say he'd better worry just a teensy bit about liberals in the congress even if he agrees that liberals in the country can be taken for granted since "everyone" knows they have no choice but to vote for him anyway. Congresspeople have to be responsive to their constituents. And many of them represent that same liberal base. They might want very much to support the presidents long march to the right so that he can get all those moderates out there who allegedly want tax cuts for millionaires, but they may just start feeling the same kind of pressure from their liberal constituents that the conservatives face from the their Tea partiers (who for some reason, these gasbags never seem to think can be safely ignored.)

The Tea Party has shown that successful primaries against stalwart conservatives gives them power. Do the Villagers think the left didn't notice that? Do they think that the liberals in congress didn't notice it either?


She's right and even if the Obama administration thinks they can still win elections while ignoring their base, you can't say the same thing about the Congress. I hope to hell that no one who is as disgusted as I am about what's going on right now decides to sit it out during primary races. House races are the one place we have to push back that don't cost a fortune most of the time, although the Supreme Court just made that battle harder as well in some cases.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 02:40 AM
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1. it's sad
Edited on Wed Dec-22-10 02:40 AM by Skittles
but look how many so-called "progressives" on DU are pleased as punch with what is happening - their heads are completely in the sand
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 05:55 AM
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6. DUers with their heads in the sand?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 06:17 AM
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 06:38 AM
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8. So, Skittles, you're suggesting that "so-called progressives" on DU have their heads completely
in the sand. Hmmm.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 06:49 AM
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9. um
look how many so-called "progressives" = not all, but certainly enough to be VERY DISTURBING
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 02:41 AM
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2. Amurcans love it when the powerful piss on the weak. Limbaugh, et. al., has made millions off of it.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 03:15 AM
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3. The base may have "nowhere else to go"
as far as voting is concerned but the vote may not be enough. Since so many of the base are the ones that do the grunt work and give the money I guess time will tell how much they are needed come election time.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 04:35 AM
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4. any money not coming from the base will be more than made up for by
corporations and the wealthy.

After all, they are the big benefactors of much of the legislation during the past few years.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 05:23 AM
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5. It is time to let the Corporations foot the bill.
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PADemD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 07:55 AM
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10. Corporations don't do phone banking or parade walking or door-to door
canvassing.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 08:07 AM
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11. they sure buy a lot of television time
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PADemD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 11:34 AM
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13. Have you ever volunteered for a campaign?
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 11:54 AM
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14. yes I have - what is your point
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PADemD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 10:29 PM
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15. Then you realize that people and money are needed to run a campaign.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 04:38 AM
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18. show me where I said differently
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 08:18 AM
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12. Hope this gamble pays off for him.
As far as politics go, maybe it will. As far as principles go, it was a weasel thing to do.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 10:36 PM
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16. Well, either we got tossed a couple bones
or he's paying attention, it's hard to say. We lost on the tax bill and won DADT, Start, and got half of what we needed for 9/11 responders. Now there are rumblings on DOMA. I hope this is a trend and not a few bones setting us up for something bigger. Like SS privatization.

I hate to be this cynical but what do you expect. After 2 years they finally start appeasing the base on the way out the door?
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 10:43 PM
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17. Look at what "we" got, after the big tax sell-out.
DADT is a social issue that the wealthy don't give a shit about. The START Treaty is common sense national defense, and one of those rare examples of something that ought be wholly bipartisan. Aid for 9/11 responders costs next to nothing and isn't a Democratic issue at all-- it's simply civic duty and the sort of thing that any country would be obligated to do for people like that.

We got a handful of magic beans and the wealthy/Wall Street took the cow.
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