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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 07:26 AM
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Hospital loses affiliation with Catholic church because it saved the mother's life, losing fetus
Article - http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2010/12/21/us_bishop_hospital/index.html


The local diocese stated that St. Joseph's Hospitalk inArizona can no longer be a Catholic hospital because of a recent surgery which saved a woman's life at the cost of losing her fetus..."The innocent should have been saved..."


They are getting crazier every year.

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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 07:29 AM
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1. So Much For The Hypocratic Oath...
I guess "do no harm" is only applicable with certain conditions now. Hopefully there's a real, public hopsital in the area that offers 21st century medicine not 12th century dogma.

Cheers...
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 03:17 PM
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13. That's the catch. In alot of places like south Texas, a Catholic hospital might be all
that is available for 120 miles or two hours.

I won't go to one if I have any choice in the matter.
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SouthernLiberal Donating Member (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 07:33 AM
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2. This is not a change in Catholic policy
I was raised Catholic, and this has been the rule for as long as I can remember. If there is a choice between saving the mother or saving 'the unborn child', a good Catholic doctor is always prohibited to choose the mother.

That the fetus may be too early to survive long-term is not even a consideration.

Catholic-affiliated hospitals may have been saving mothers regularly, but that was just because nobody in church authority was watching.

This is one of the many reasons why I am not now a Catholic
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 09:24 AM
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4. Ectopic pregnancy
My doctor didn't want to put me in a catholic hospital but had no choice. I was 5 weeks. I lay in that hospital bed for 24 hours without so much as my blood pressure being monitored or an IV. All I got was a pregnancy test. They did a sonogram the day after I was admitted. By that time my tube had burst. I think that is what they were waiting for. If my tube had burst, then they wouldn't have to "kill" the baby. Of course, that put MY LIFE in extreme danger for no reason except their religious views.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 09:31 AM
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5. Please tell me you sued.
A "hospital" with such policies and practices needs to be shut down.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 10:11 AM
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6. No
and many people did they me I should have sued. All I wanted to do at the time was get out of there and forget about it.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 10:16 AM
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7. That's very understandable.
I'm very sorry that happened to you, it is simply appalling.

:hug:
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 12:07 PM
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9. Yeah, I stopped believing in it around age 11, have no reason to regret that
decision since.


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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 03:01 PM
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11. The fetus was only 11 weeks it would not have survived
without the mother and the mother would not have survived the pregnancy. There was no other choice, save the mother or lose them both. So this is beyond even the pale of the morons at the Vatican.
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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 09:09 AM
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3. Sounds like a good thing for the hospital and its patients.
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ChazII Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 10:26 AM
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8. This is the same hospital that houses
Barrows Neurological Center? Mohammed Ali, Brent Michaels and the royal family of Saudi Arabia are treated at Barrows/St. Joe's. The hospital will do just fine without the Catholic's support.
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 02:58 PM
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10. I will NEVER go to a Catholic Hospital.
So much that I have card in my wallet specifying this.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 03:10 PM
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12. This must have been the shoe for which the church was waiting to drop.
Common sense would have dictated terminating the pregnancy versus losing both patients. This fetus never stood a chance in this womb because of the mother's health issues. Apparently the hospital violated some of the other nonsensical rules of the church.
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