Tackled Wisconsin Rep Milroy Says His Capitol Key Card Is Disabled

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All tackling aside, Milroy's Capitol key card was disabled on Monday, and he doesn't know when it will work again -- leaving him unable to access the building freely, as he used to do.

On Wednesday, the Capitol Police sent a memo to legislature members saying, "As you know, key card access for Capitol staff was disabled on Monday." The memo went on:

We realize that Capitol staff members have been inconvenienced by the disabling of key card access, however this step was made necessary because a small number of staff members were seen to be abusing the key card access system by allowing some visitors to bypass building entry procedures.

If Capitol staff members can demonstrate they are willing to follow the procedures for building access that are currently in effect, we will consider temporarily restoring key card access and will monitor compliance to determine whether key card access can be permanently restored.

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http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/03/tackled_wisconsin_representative_says_his_capitol_key_card_is_disabled.php?ref=fpa

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WTF???

and 40s and I'm sure they could describe what real fascists were like.

Does anyone posting here actually know if some were using their key cards to allow unauthorized people into the building? If they did, then under the current circumstances they messed it up for everyone.

I've worked at places which have used key cards and if anyone used their card to allow unauthorized people into the building, then they would get in trouble.

After reading the story it does appear that Milroy and the officer in question were able to work this out like reasonable adults. It seems that Milroy was not calling anyone fascists. Yes, I am certain this is a stressful time for everyone there and it's likely the police there have been working some long hours. Sometimes things happen and in the scope of things this incident is not particularly significant unless someone is looking to make a mountain out of a molehill.

but i am sure you knew that.

By the way I only need to ask MY DAD. Is that close enough for you?

By the way... look up the TERM... and what it means.

Then look up both ITALY and SPAIN... two OTHER forms of the type of system. I suggest then you look up into Pinochet, or for that matter Echeverria...

What you think that we need brown shirts and goose stepping goons?

But here you go... to the actual definitions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism

If it quaks like a duck, and walks like one, I guess it is a snake huh?

By the way our modern-day republicans are far closer to the technical definition than Echeverria ever got to it as well.

Too many are quick to resort to hyperbole. I was in Madison last Saturday with the 100,000 and I saw no examples of fascism and I'm not prepared to call any incidents there that might happen to be "fascism". The specific incident in question is certainly not fascism and it appears that both sides regret that it happened.

A quack and a step does not a duck make.

it is in what the governor is doing... and how far he is willing to go into marrying STATE and CORPORATE power.. that IS the definition.

If you expect jackboots, then of course it is not fascism. After all the American form will take on it's OWN AMERICAN FORMS... and to expect it to look like this



is just silly

Not all of which are well-taken. There's no indication that Milroy was "abusing" his key card. And if there were folks "abusing" their key cards, wouldn't it be fairer and far more efficacious to deal with those individuals, rather than making a blanket policy that punishes all alike?

As for allowing "unauthorized" people into the Capitol building (a public building erected, paid for, and maintained by the taxpayers of the State of Wisconsin), we have the example of Gov. Walker bringing in a paper crowd for his little address a couple of days ago. The crowd, hand-picked and chock full of Walker partisans, was spirited in through an underground connecting walkway. Who vetted those people?

I don't know what key card buildings you may have worked, but if they were privately-owned, I'd say the owner would be perfectly justified in controlling who enters and exits. A public building where the official business of the State of Wisconsin is conducted? Different story.

Is this the equivalent of a fascist dictatorship at the height of the dictator's powers? Clearly not. But were there signs and mileposts along the way to untrammeled fascist power that gave a good indication of where things were headed? Undeniably. Would early resistance have made any difference whatsoever to the likes of Mussolini or Franco? Hard to say, probably not. Is that any reason to fail to resist patent unfairness and bully tactics by the current executive in Wisconsin. I would say absolutely not.

THAT'S FASCISM!

I don't think anything in the definition guarantees that it will be harmful to a population, although it usually is. It would all depend upon the person or people in charge, who could be very benevolent, or usually not.

You may be connecting fascism with nazism which is a completely different story.

And yes I do believe this Country has been going fascist at least since Ronald Reagan up to the present, and that would include Clinton and Obama also.

Thanks to Reagan.

able to breeze into see Walker.

passageways to bring in supporters -- didn't hear the full particulars.

But those passageways were intended only for emergency use.

He's growing more crazed every day. Someone's going to get seriously hurt because of his madness. He prevented the fire department from entering the Capitol. Can you imagine if someone was in cardiac arrest and they were prevented from entering because of Kaiser Walker?

I would love to hear what the cop in the stuck elevator said after he got out when he found out that the 'cops' at the door wouldn't let the fire fighters in to get him out of the elevator!

from entering a scene (and I wish it was more often) was when we had cross country lead, which always has the right of way...

So yes, this is crazee.

All are guilty because of the few

And subject yourself to frisking. I myself was detained and had my ID momentarily confiscated (they harangued me for evidence that I was carrying ID, without which I would have been arrested) for complaining about obtrusive search and security measures when I was rushing to attend a PUBLIC court house proceeding in assisting a lawyer with a woman's case.

So much for "only morons don't carry ID, it's not like it's required, you just may find yourself inconvenienced without it" argument.

This is why this country will never engage in demonstrations like those in the Mid-East. It's all about affluence and money. The haves have no incentive to protest on behalf of have-nots.

operates like a bunch of high schoolers. "If Capitol staff members can demonstrate they are willing to follow the procedures for building access that are currently in effect, we will consider temporarily restoring key card access and will monitor compliance to determine whether key card access can be permanently restored."

We will suspend you and if your don't behave we will expel you.

And if the WI Repukes would follow the procedures for democratic governance, there wouldn't be an issue of who goes into the capitol.

AtheistCrusader said:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA

What the fuck is this shit?

COME HOME OR WE'LL ARREST YOU.

*next day*

DON'T GO IN YOUR OFFICE OR WE'LL ARREST YOU

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4756738#4757197

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I think that sums up the craziness that Gov Walker is creating in Wisconsin!

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I mean, I know what's going on, but for these kind of bullshit measures to be put in place - surely brighter minds must prevail and tell Walker he is governor (for now) - NOT EMPEROR!!! WTF. Walker needs to be arrested for this shit - he has WAY overstepped his authority and is clearly out of touch with what the people of Wisconsin want.



Do you think public employees who belong to a union and work for state government, city government, or a school district should have the same right to bargain when it comes to their health care, pension and other benefits as employees who belong to a union and work for private companies?


from: http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/03/02/6171265-nbcwsj-poll-62-against-stripping-public-employees-bargaining-rights
and : http://dailykos.com

From Twitter:

OTOOLEFAN

RT @ThePlumLineGS: Two separate news reports nw say Wisconsin Republicans may be preparing to break with Scott Walker: http://wapo.st/i3MMF6

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2011/03/are_wisconsin_republicans_gett.html

And has anyone found out if it is only the Democrat's Key card access that has been eliminated?
Oh and the Key card doors supposedly have a state trooper by them for the last three days so how, please explain to me, how is someone sneaking people in?

Apparently when Walker gave his budget speech in the Capitol the other day, he had a bunch of republican ringers dressed in suits to be seated in the assembly gallery smuggled in thru an entrance which is supposed to be used only for emergencies!

He is anti-American scum of the lowest order.