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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 06:38 PM
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Obama Administration Backs Bloomberg in attack "Last in, first out" layoff principle

Duncan, in a telephone conference call with reporters yesterday, backed up Bloomberg's demand to end LIFO, which protects teachers with seniority from layoffs at the expense of younger, motivated teachers who serve some of the most needy students.

"If layoffs are based only on seniority, that doesn't help kids," Duncan said, promising to use his position as the nation's education czar as a bully pulpit to end LIFO.

"Particularly, it doesn't help students who need the most help. You have a concentration of young teachers in the most disadvantaged communities.


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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 06:47 PM
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1. Recommend
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 06:50 PM
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2. How about...
NO LAYOFFS AT ALL. Fund education.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 06:54 PM
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4. Can't you just *feel* the hopetasticalness of it all!
:bounce:
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 06:54 PM
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5. ....
:rofl:

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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 06:58 PM
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7. The para who works with the kids with Down Syndrome in my class
just got told today that her hours are being cut to the bone next year. Because they need her to take a child to the restroom in her department, she'll actually get to keep her job but probably not get to work with students in ceramics anymore. It's been a shit day. Just think what a great country this might be if the stimulus funds had gone to communities. :(
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Foo Fighter Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 09:15 PM
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18. Not to mention the bailout money.
If that money had gone to the states instead, we wouldn't be in this fix. (Provided, of course, that the states used it for the public good instead of passing it along to their cronies.)
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markpkessinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 06:53 PM
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3. It amazes me that no one is calling them out on what this is really about...
Namely, the fact that school districts are looking for a way to jettison older, more experienced teachers who are higher on the pay scale in favor of younger, inexperienced ones who cost less. This has nothing whatsoever to do with what is best for kids!
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 06:58 PM
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6. Good. If layoffs are necessary, I want to keep the *best* teachers
who are *not* necessarily the ones who have served the most time. The best teacher I ever had was young, motivated, incredibly talented, and would have been one of the first to be laid off under "Last in First Out".
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 07:09 PM
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9. lol. nobody buys it.
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 08:39 PM
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15. Except for Arne Duncan, Andrew Cuomo and Mike Bloomberg.
But what do they know?
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 09:09 PM
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17. not much except how to make speeches & cite phony studies. oh, & make money
by sucking the gov't tit.
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 08:55 PM
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16. They won't keep the best. They'll keep the cheapest.
And they'll privatize whatever they can. Surely you realize this.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 09:32 PM
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19. Rose-colored glasses. I was most popular when I was near the students' ages, but I knew a LOT less
than my 50-year-old self.
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 10:31 PM
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22. Like Barack Obama was *much* less experienced than John McCain (nt)
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 07:06 PM
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8. $500 BILLION on war this year - our government of the corporations and war profiteers nt
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 07:15 PM
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10. So a person that has been teaching for twenty years and learned most of the tricks
gets canned while some snot nosed twenty five year old keeps their job.. It doesn't make sense to me but I am no where near as smart as our ten dimensional chess player in the Whitehouse.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 07:25 PM
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11. It's a great way to save money, as was pointed out upthread.
Ditch the person who makes more so that you can bring it someone right out of college. The bosses have wanted that power for years. Hell, they used to do it, before unions, and now they can do it again.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 07:27 PM
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12. Why this characterization that young teachers are motivated (implying that older ones are not.)
The best teachers that I had we in their 40s to late 60s. The younger ones often lost control of the classroom and seemed to flounder about in curriculum.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 08:09 PM
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14. That characterization makes it easier to justify dumping teachers who are paid more
and replacing them with those who are paid less.

More money for the bosses that way, you know.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 09:33 PM
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20. Because they are young. Period.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 10:25 PM
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21. I will grant that young people have more enthusiasm for whatever comes into their head.
But, overall, they don't have the enthusiasm to maintain a discipline.
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