Kentucky City Mulls Ban On E-Cigarettes

Kentucky City Mulls Ban On E-Cigarettes

A central Kentucky city is mulling a proposal to take its smoking ban a step further by prohibiting electronic cigarettes.

The proposal by the Madison County Board of Health has drawn varied reactions, with some supporting the measure and some saying it goes too far.

Resident Bethany Gibb said the board should wait for conclusive evidence of harm before making a decision.

But board member Jack Taylor said during a public hearing last month that it is better to fall on the side of caution.

http://www.wlky.com/r/27092247/detail.html

a ban on sweet cigarettes



This is the world going mad.

it has nothing to do with so-called 'second hand smoke'. These people have something against the mere act of smoking, no matter what that may be.

to big tobacco.

Kentucky is the only place I've been lately where tobacco smoking is still socially accepted.

Do you enjoy the stink of other people's dirty socks?
Do you enjoy the garlic breath of the person standing beside you on the bus?

No?

And these things don't even cause respiratory diseases.

Smokers do not have some God-given right to pollute and poison the air other people are breathing. There's no basis for righteous indignation here.

take note of those black clouds that come out of the back of the bus and think about this:

"Why are emissions from diesel-fueled engines of concern to the public?
• Emissions from diesel-fueled engines are mainly composed of particulate matter and gases, which contain
potential cancer-causing substances such as arsenic, benzene, formaldehyde, nickel, and polycyclic aromatic
hydrocarbons.
• Emissions from diesel-fueled engines currently include over 40 substances that are listed by the U.S. Environmental
Protection Agency (U.S. EPA) as hazardous air pollutants (HAPs) and by the ARB as TACs.
• Particulate matter (PM) from diesel-fueled engine emissions is small enough to be inhaled deep into the lungs."

http://www.arb.ca.gov/toxics/dieseltac/factsht1.pdf

I should be expected to inhale the poisonous fumes from somebody's filthy habit?

No thanks.

Oh wait, there IS a basis...

smelly, disease-carrying, noisy infants in my space in a restaurant. Yet no one seems concerned about that.

I've got news for you, O Self-Righteous One. ALL humans pollute their environment. It just so happens you've chosen your OWN PET PEEVE to single out.

That'll fix the little buggers!

I find your efforts to defend the indefensible quite amusing, ackshully.

because that's what zealotry really is all about: The Absurdity of Focusing on Minutia. You need to admit to yourself that you're a self-righteous zealot before you can begin to heal. Good Luck to you.

Not cigarette smoke. Good grief. How the hell is water vapor "indefensible"?

I use watermelon and other fruity flavors for mine. There is no smoke, so there is no burning smell. If anything, it smells like someone opened up a bag of jolly ranchers.

If you have no problem standing near a fog machine that people use for concerts or halloween decor or in the theatre, then you should have no problem with electronic cigarettes. Its a handheld version of the same exact thing.

Apparently the Kentucky tobacco growers are afraid of them, but I'd like to see all smokers using them or the patch.

If you are talking about marijuana, then yea, I know that people have cooked up marijuana into the solution and used it. Though I've never done that or tried it to see how well it works.

e-cigarettes. Does the element get hot enough?

I've seen this happen and it was hilarious. An anti-smoking loon saw someone "smoking" an e-cig in a lobby, loon got all puffed up and righteous and stalked over to the "smoker" to let her have it, only to be told that the "smoker" wasn't smoking at all, it was vapor. You'd think the loon would be pleased and happy - hey, he wasn't being subjected to second-hand smoke after all, what a relief! But no, he got pissed off even worse than he was when he thought she was actually smoking!

"The health department's Tobacco Program Coordinator told The Richmond Register that she could not find any research saying e-cigarettes were safe."

If she had found any research saying e-cigs were unsafe, I'm sure it would have been noted.

Why is the "Tobacco Program Coordinator" even involved? There is no tobacco in these products.

http://www.grandforksherald.com/event/article/id/195773/

Aggressive tactics

Norms have already changed drastically. Decades ago, no one would’ve raised an eyebrow if a smoker lit up in the supermarket or even in a hospital waiting room. Today, it’s almost unthinkable.

In many places, though, smoking outside a building on the sidewalk or in a bar is still seen as normal. The best practices aim to change that.

To get smokers to quit, they recommend states offer phone counseling — it’s called the “Quitline” in North Dakota — and free nicotine patches. They enlist doctors and nurses, some of the most persuasive people in our lives when it comes to our health, to remind tobacco users they need to quit. They call for advertising targeted at different kinds of smokers and would-be smokers — teens, considered the most vulnerable to advertising, are a particular focus.

But best practices also recommend more than persuasion: They call for raising the tobacco tax to around $2 a pack — North Dakota charges 44 cents — and banning smoking in public places. While smoking ban proponents often talk about protecting nonsmokers from secondhand smoke, the goal of a ban is also to help quitters avoid temptation.


----A good article showing what is planned, and how it was planned all along when it comes to smoking. They wanted it banned, could not get it, so set about a strategy to slowly ban it. It's all in that article. And when they do ban it, they will still need to make money somehow so these same people will turn to something else.

e-cigs, but nice straw hut there.

:eyes:

Telling people what to do won't win you many friends.

There is no nicotine replacement product out there more successful or more satisfying than a well made electronic cigarette, NONE.

A pack and a half a day, 30 year habit over a year ago by switching to ecigs.

against second hand water vapor.

Thanks e-cigs for helping me quit.

Go to altsmoke.com, get the E-Go starter kit. Its the best for the price. The Silver Bullet and the Omega are higher end models, but also cost about twice as much.

I have a silver bullet and my grandmother has the E-go. Neither one of us have touched a cigarette since we bought them. These products will completely satisfy your urge to smoke and after awhile, I will bet that you will like them much better than cigarettes.

As soon as it comes to me, I'll post another reply. It was the cheapest I found but it works. 2-piece(meaning it is a stick that holds a battery and a cartridge(looks like a filter) with the nicotine and they screw together. Many prefer 3-piece but I'm not at all familiar with those.

....that you can get now.

Here is what I bought.
http://www.madvapes.com/808-D-Starter-Kit_p_2833.html

If you do get this, you might want to buy a pack of empty cartomizers because it only has 1 and they tend to warp after 10-15 refills.

It is probably crummy compared to what the other poster referred you to but it works and it is only $10. :)

I generally vape with an E-Go mega battery and cartomizers instead of atomizers.

You might want to start with one of the madvapes disposable 510s to see if it's going to work for you.

E-cigarettes are effective at helping smokers quit. They don't produce the various toxins which contribute to concerns about "secondary smoke" associated with actual cigarettes. They don't produce offensive odors.

Perhaps this has something to do with the revenue Kentucky raises annually from cigarette sales alone?

On edit, by way of example:

"Good News for Public Health, Bad News for Health Programs

California's decline in cigarette sales could have a positive effect on public health because smoking has been linked to cancer, emphysema, heart disease and other medical conditions.

However, the drop in sales also means that the state is collecting less in tobacco tax revenue. During the most recent fiscal year, the state received $839 million in cigarette tax revenue, down from the $913 million it collected in the previous fiscal year (Sacramento Bee, 7/28).

Read more: http://www.californiahealthline.org/articles/2010/7/28/states-tobacco-tax-revenue-drops-as-cigarette-sales-fall.aspx#ixzz1FrGoUGKF"

link at: http://www.californiahealthline.org/articles/2010/7/28/states-tobacco-tax-revenue-drops-as-cigarette-sales-fall.aspx