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dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 10:16 AM
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Should health care reform include a private option?
That is the debate we should have had. (And the compromise we should have eventually made)
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 10:21 AM
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1. Sure but who would buy private? It's a ripoff.
I quit my private insurance... way too expensive and the benefits stingy.
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 10:47 AM
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2. No.
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fadedrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 10:50 AM
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3. There's no such thing as a national health plan without a public option
Edited on Sun Mar-06-11 10:52 AM by fadedrose
Aren't private options what we have now, along with employers' group plans?
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 10:52 AM
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4. There is a private option
Almost anyone who was insured before health care reform had and still have private insurance.

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cilla4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 11:02 AM
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5. I think you mean PUBLIC option?
:yoiks:
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 11:04 AM
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6. No, he said what he meant and made a good point. n/t
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Modern_Matthew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 11:05 AM
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7. Nope. Single-payer, same quality for all. No private insurance companies. nt
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 11:40 AM
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11. Take a moment to read H.R. 676, the "Medicare for All" bill
One of the clearest, simplest and most inspiring bills you'll ever read.

Here's a link to the PDF.

Section 104 (b) makes a provision for private insurance. It says


(b) Nothing in this Act shall be construed as prohibiting the sale of health insurance coverage for any additional benefits not covered by this Act, such as for cosmetic surgery or other services and items that are not medically necessary.
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 11:46 AM
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12. That's it. IF you've got the money and want extra coverage.......
over and above the government plan, I wouldn't be averse to you being able to buy it on the private market. Hey, I'd even imagine that government regulators would be able to keep you from getting ripped off too.

You're welcome. Now, when are we going to have this conversation for real?
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 11:08 AM
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8. Yup. And sadly, I think some people are missing the point of your question
Edited on Sun Mar-06-11 11:11 AM by RufusTFirefly
If rich folks want to be fast-tracked for tummy tucks, then can pay extra.

Our President could've used the bully pulpit (whatta concept!) to tell Americans what is obvious to people all over the world: the best, most affordable, and most humane healthcare system is a single-payer public system.

Then, like the skillful rhetorician he is when he wants to be, he could've played to both our humility and our patriotism by explaining that although by rights we should be embarrassed to be one of the last of the so-called "developed" nations to institute single-payer universal healthcare, we can use our late start to our advantage by crafting a system that borrows from the strongest elements of systems all over the world while avoiding the weaker ones, resulting in a uniquely American solution that we can all be proud of.

Of course, he didn't do that. Instead, he did what he has done over and over again.

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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 11:16 AM
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9. The "bully pulpit" can be used to do something besides fawn over the Bush family? who knew lol nt
Edited on Sun Mar-06-11 11:16 AM by msongs
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 11:19 AM
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10. Sure it can. It can be used to bash drug addicted, world peace wanting Democrats.
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dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 12:07 PM
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13. Just to clarify.
The point I'm trying to make is that Obama negotiates from a position of weakness, using right-wing frames. But it isn't just him. It's most of us as well.

After 30 years of relentless corporatist propaganda, even many of us see the world through a right-wing filter.

Policy-wise, this administration has been a vast improvement over the previous one. I'm sure I'll be voting for President Obama again next year. But he has actually moved the country backwards in terms of acceptance of right-wing memes and rejection of leftward ones.

I would have preferred a fighter who got no legislation passed, but who forcefully and eloquently let the country know where he (and we) stood.



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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 12:35 PM
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14. Yes - knr nt
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 07:23 AM
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15. Only for bells and whistles
Not for basic comprehensive health care.
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