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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 07:55 PM
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One out of every four **American** children in poverty. Is this acceptable to ANYONE?
I'm sure many of us watched tonight's 60 Minutes - or we will.

If you haven't, do. It will break your heart.

This ought to be required viewing for anyone who sees merit in dismantling our social safety net. That goes to even those who wish to "negotiate" with the right wing zealots. That means a SHITLOAD of Democrats.

Quite simply, This Is **Not** Okay.
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 07:58 PM
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1. Absolutely heart breaking episode. And an embarrassment for our country.
That vast concentrated wealth is just freely trickling down to those in need....NOT.

:banghead:
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 07:58 PM
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2. I saw it. it should be aired over and over on prime time TV, but many will probably
never see it. This country is an absolute la la land. La la land America.

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mrs_p Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 08:00 PM
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3. no it's not OK
but 25% of the population growing up hungry is worth it to keep our corporate overlords happy

:mad:
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 08:01 PM
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4. Of course not. That's far too few.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 08:01 PM
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5. How many in Wisconsin before Scott Walker? And how are projected afterwards?
I really don't understand how these Republicans can get away with cutting jobs, without first creating them.
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iwishiwas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 08:22 PM
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13. I hope that

this will be the backlash coming for him.............


http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 08:53 PM
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21. If it gets to that point, we all lose.
I like to believe that lefties don't need guns. Just numbers.
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iwishiwas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 09:39 PM
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29. EEKs. I posted the wrong link. Sorry, see this one.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 09:40 PM
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31. Now that's more like it.
Welcome to DU.
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iwishiwas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 10:39 PM
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38. Thank you.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 05:52 PM
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49. We already HAVE "The Numbers".

Who represents THIS overwhelming Majority of Americans?

We simply do NOT have a Political Party willing to represent us.
The current "New Democrat Centrist Party" is depending on undeserved Brand Loyalty.




"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans.
I want us to compete for that great mass of voters that want a party that will stand up for working Americans."
---Paul Wellstone



"By their works you will know them."

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Drahthaardogs Donating Member (482 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 08:01 PM
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6. Do you think the right cares?
Do you think all those wallstreet guys care? For that matter, do you think Boehner cares? They worship Mammon. It is their God. There is a reason the golden calf sits outside their trading center. Their god does not give a shit about their comarades in hummanity. I wish our President would open his eyes and realize the Republicans flat do not give a fuck about anything other than their profit margins and bank accounts. He would do well to realize this.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 01:44 AM
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41. Forbes gallery of the richest people in America -- listing the top 350+ ...
http://www.forbes.com/wealth/forbes-400/gallery

Watch the "60 Minutes" segment about these heartbroken children & think of the obscene wealth of these people. Then ask yourself, why are these children having to live this way in America?
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 03:03 AM
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42. To be balanced, not all of the super rich subscribe to the 'gutting of America' philosophy.
Some are actively trying to use their money to help others.

But I'm sure it is true that the large majority of them are selfish pigs that don't care about us commoners at all.

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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 06:02 PM
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55. That is not the point. The point is that we subscribe to an economic
system that ensures these results. Capitalism has to go.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 12:12 AM
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62. I don't think the problem is as simple as 'capitalism is bad'.
Capitalism with enough protections and regulations can work.
The fact that the regulations have been discarded is the problem.
They essentially eliminated laws that made the system work which
allowed the criminals to grow in strength and take over.

Whether it can recover or not is beginning to be a question.


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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 07:37 AM
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63. Not true - it only "works" for those at the top with all of the wealth.
You might put band-aids on it for awhile, as we did here in the 1950's with the higher tax rates, but it always comes roaring back because the objective is profit. As for regulations, paying off fines is just the cost of doing business. Doesn't work, never did.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 12:53 PM
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65. Granted that capitalism only works when controlled properly...
and it has a constant tendency to try and break away from the controls and go 'rogue'.

But what system, in your opinion, would work better and do you have any examples of a society that has used it effectively?

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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 02:59 PM
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66. Typical red-baiter response. Not interested in that exercise ... nt
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 05:16 PM
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69. Nope. Not at all. I genuinely would like to hear.
But whatever.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 08:03 PM
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7. It is obviously acceptable to both the Republican -- and Democratic -- parties
n/t
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 08:09 PM
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9. And it is obviously acceptable to all three major branches of the Federal
government. :patriot:
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 08:18 PM
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10. Yup.
n/t
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Skip_In_Boulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 08:07 PM
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8. Until Democrats quite being the party of appeasement
This will stay the same.

You keep doing what your doing, you keep getting what your getting. Any hope we have will have to come from the street up.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 08:19 PM
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11. acceptable to those who would have flocked to the Colosseum
for the gorefests ...

You know, the ones who love to watch the desperate fight over crumbs, just to survive ...
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 08:22 PM
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12. Poverty defined as family of four making less than 22K
Me thinks there are many making more than that who would qualify as poverty stricken under most of our standards! Too sad!
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 09:20 PM
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26. Good point. nt
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 09:31 PM
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28. You are exactly right. The way the "poverty line" is figured hasn't been changed since the 1960s
and is totally inadequate for today.

WHY isn't the "progressive" media talking about this?

why isn't this common knowledge among "progressives"??? :wtf:
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Lifelong Protester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 08:25 PM
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14. And quite simply, I am with you
I am on a mission now, and wish all DUers (hope you are) do the same.

I'm marching, I'm writing, I'm very careful about where I spend my money, I'm boycotting, I'm doing WHATEVER I can...

This is un-ac-cep-ta-ble.

Period.
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WHEN CRABS ROAR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 09:39 PM
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30. Something happening here, what it is not exactly clear,
theres a man with a gun over there telling me to beware, nah, thats just an old song, I'm with you, we will push back!
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 08:25 PM
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15. recommend.
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Monique1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 08:30 PM
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16. This made me sick to my stomach
I have dinner in the crockpot, now I don't feel like eating. I wish I knew somone who had no food near me. They can have mine.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 08:31 PM
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17. I saw that also. Great Piece but heartbreaking.. No it is not
acceptable.
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WHEN CRABS ROAR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 08:34 PM
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18. Let me cut to the chase, HAD ENOUGH YET !
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 09:21 PM
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27. +10000000000
Every apologist for dismantling the safety net should be crumpling with shame right now.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 08:36 PM
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19. caught the end of it -- hope to catch the rest of it soon, as it looked like it was quite powerful
Nope. Not okay.
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 08:37 PM
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20. But.....but..it's because they are LAZY. . .
why, if they weren't lazy, those children would be working in factories and pulling themselves up by their....ooops...they don't have shoes or boots...well, by their toenails! And if they were really, really smart, why, they'd be discovered working at a soda fountain by some big conservative wealthy person who immediately gives them a magnificent job and mentors their talents!

Why, this happens to every poor person in America - they just must not be smart enough to get discovered!
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 09:04 PM
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22. How any rich person, millionaire or billionaire can watch that story and then
go out and eat at a 3-4 star restaurant, buy a big boat, or stay at a 4 star hotel etc, etc, etc before donating to the homeless...has no compassion or moral compass. How do those multi-millionaires who complain about taxes...sleep at night knowing of all the needy children in this country? Bastards!

I hope some of our representatives saw 60 Min tonight and will reconsider voting for all those cuts to the safety nets for our poor.

I wish they'd do a story on the poor trying to pay for gas and oil to keep from freezing.
Next winter is going to be a bitch. We need to increase heating assistance...not cut it in half. What is Obama thinking?
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Indydem Donating Member (866 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 03:51 PM
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46. What do you have against hotel employees, cooks, dishwashers, and waiters??
What about people who build boats?

While I don't love the rich any more than anyone else, all of these jobs are solid middle class jobs that need SOMEONE to purchase their products and services.
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 09:05 PM
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23. Absolutely not n/t
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NillaWafers Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 09:16 PM
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25. It was heartbreaking and shameful. Those children were all, every single one of them
a marvelous lovely and loving person with wisdom and wit and courage.

We are truly lost.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 09:41 PM
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32. There is NO EXCUSE for this in the United States of America. nt
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cilla4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 09:58 PM
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33. Republicans?
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taught_me_patience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 10:02 PM
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34. It's disgusting
The result of 30 years of reganomics. Yeah... Clinton AND Obama are reganomics lite...
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femmocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 10:11 PM
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35. That segment was an eye-opener.
With so many homeless children in school, the schools are taking on even more of society's problems than ever.

And all the anti-public education crowd cares about is their friggin' test scores. And punishing teachers (who are likely helping to feed and clothe these children) for not drilling them with more rote learning to score higher.

(None of the above was mentioned on 60 Minutes -- JMO.)

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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 10:16 PM
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36. i was shocked . . . & i live in florida! everyone should see this,
Edited on Sun Mar-06-11 10:17 PM by ellenfl
although i doubt it will melt any repub hearts. surely there are some reasonable repubs who will finally say 'enough'!?

ellen fl
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 10:16 PM
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37. USA! USA! USA! - :sarcasm: - n/t
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 11:05 PM
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39. K&R
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 01:32 AM
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40. I saw "60 Minutes" & it was heartbreaking to hear each of those children speak
so sadly about their situations. Every one who spoke had tears in their eyes, but were obviously holding back full sobs in order to speak. Children aren't supposed to hurt like that; their young lives shouldn't know that level of sorrow. Their hearts were broken & their innocence has been removed by worries.

A brother had to drop out of high school in his senior year to get a job just to help his family scrape by, which meant a place to sleep in one room at a modest hotel. The younger sister -- & I was so impressed by her maturity & ability to express herself -- spoke of her family having had to park in a Wal-Mart lot so that she & her brother could use its bathroom to wash themselves & to brush their teeth, bringing their own toothbrushes & toothpaste, each day before going to school. She said those standing around would stare, but what else could they do, as she shrugged her small shoulders.

This happens in America. :(
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 03:07 PM
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68. a few years ago I encountered a child of about 11 who accompanied her "mother"
to an ESL class in the poorest neighborhood in New Haven where I was helping tutor. The lady was obviously too old to be this child's mother and I asked if she was the grandmother. The girl answered "They gave me to her."

A child, given away. She was the age of my granddaughter and I had to fight the tears welling up in my eyes...

I remember her to this day and I wonder what happened to her...
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 03:37 AM
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43. One out of every four, yet half of all the wealth is owned by 1% of
America. Oh yeah, you know there is a coincidence between the two. America stands for the land of the big corporation and special interest groups for as long as the money train is running!!

CHOO CHOO!!!
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 06:54 AM
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44. Proud to add rec 42
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 10:27 AM
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45. K&R no tv here
but glad to see that there was something on msm!
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Uta Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 04:38 PM
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47. Is the 60 minutes video segment available on line?
I missed it. I would like to see it.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 10:06 PM
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59. here:
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Uta Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 10:14 PM
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61. Thank you! nt
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 05:21 PM
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48. So this is what all this bipartisanship with Republicans gets us
Hey let's throw some MORE cuts at the poor and needy.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 05:56 PM
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52. +1000000000000000000000000
There are not enough zeros to address my agreement with your statement!
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 06:00 PM
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53. And NOW we are entering an era of "shared sacrifice".
How can the leader of the "Democratic Party" say those words with a smile? :shrug:
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 06:33 PM
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57. He can say it because he's struck it rich and none of this shit is going to land on him or his.
US elites are completely decoupled from the reality that the average folk have to endure, and he's joined them in that promised land. Who wouldn't smile knowing he doesn't have to share in the shared punishment?
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GSLevel9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 05:55 PM
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50. RIDICULOUS.
I agree with MMoore when he stated that America is STILL a wealthy nation. We just have to tighten the purse strings in some areas and open the wallet in others.

Let's start with no wars and use the money to feed kids? And there will be LOTS of money left over. Some of that can go to UEI extension or aid for upside down mortgages?
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 05:55 PM
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51. The PTB.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 06:00 PM
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54. Here's how to provide relief for millions of Americans.
Jobs alone are not going to do it. Significant tax reforms and increased funding to end poverty is the only way:

Revenues from taxing the rich and ending the wars can significantly fund these programs and provide tax relief for low- to middle income Americans.

In terms of low-income tax relief, Kerry's EITC proposal is a good one.

Poverty jumped during the Bush years:

<...>

(CBS News) Nationwide, 14 million children were in poverty before the Great Recession. Now, the U.S. Census tells us its 16 million - up two million in two years. That is the fastest fall for the middle class since the government started counting 51 years ago.

<...>


EPI report from September, A lost decade: Poverty and income trends paint a bleak picture for working families



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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 06:25 PM
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56. Obviously this IS ok. It's hardly a new feature of American life
even if it has gotten a bit worse and crossed some arbitrary threshold of significance.

America PRODUCES poverty. And we are also importing more of it every day, along with all the poverty we generate on out of our own negligence.

If this wasn't "OK" and if it wasn't part of the American Way Of Life, then large numbers of people would be banded together into a political party demanding the right to make deliberate changes to the underlying society and flawed economic model that had lead us to this sorry state of affairs.

Let me know when you hear of such a party, will you?
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 07:07 PM
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58. It's acceptable to the ones in charge.
And that's all that matters. Why should it bother them? They don't feel the pain and I would be willing to bet if they saw that program it wouldn't mean dick to them.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 10:07 PM
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60. After reading a few of the comments
for the show I have to wonder why some people are allowed to still breathe the same air as we all breathe. What a bunch of sick assholes, bitching about their tax money being spent on children!
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 08:04 AM
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64. I didn't watch it, but it's no surprise.
I'm a public school teacher. I see more local children on a regular basis than do most.

You are right, of course. It's **NOT** okay. It rests upon all those who have participated in dismantling our social safety net: politicians from both parties, media talking heads who spew propaganda, and voters who listen and/or vote for politicians who are willing to erode that net.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 03:01 PM
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67. I saw it. Amazing... school buses stopping at motels because so many kids now live there
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 05:22 PM
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70. Don't worry Stinky they have a plan to fix this...
They are going to change the child labor laws so the little bastards can pull themselves up by their bootstraps....



I wish I was kidding about this...
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