Why isn't Obama preventing our destruction?

The United States will not be destroyed by Al Qaeda or any other foreign threat. But we are in the process of being destroyed by our domestic enemies.

We know some of their names: The Koch brothers; Richard Mellon Scaife who spent untold millions trying to destroy the Clintons; Joseph Coors, (yeah, Coors beer), who has poured much of his fortune into screwing us all; and so many others who either own banks, and/or use Wall Street scams to rape us all.

Anyone who spends just a little time and effort on Google knows who is responsible for our current economic crisis. They are tremendously wealthy people who want to own everything there is to own. And they don’t give a damn if any of the rest of us live or die.

So here’s my question. Does anyone really believe that President Obama doesn’t understand this? Why is he compromising with politicians who are owned by our domestic enemies? Why isn’t he doing everything possible to protect the American middle class? Doesn’t he “get it?” Perhaps someone can explain this to me.

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"You can appreciate that, can't you?"

help the poor and middle class would be going against those who are pretty powerful, and to take them on, he'd have to get his hands dirty.

The candidate who is able to raise the most money is assured victory.

Who do you think is signing all those checks for Mr. Obama's campaign?

"Look, the people you are after are the people you depend on. We cook your meals, we haul your trash, we connect your calls, we drive your ambulances. We guard you while you sleep. Do not... fuck with us."

The WH could use a Fight Club instead of a Compromise Club In The Name of Bipartisanship, IMHO.

Tyler would definitely get my vote.


A word of warning though. If you ever eat at the WH, make sure to specify "clean food, please."

He should immediately order that eight of our nation's aircraft carriers be parked. Why should Americans protect China's oil? Or China's one-way trade routes to America?

He doesn't have that much control over the forces that are causing these problems. A lot of the blame should be placed on members of Congress (both parties), who are taking money from wealthy corporations and are either enacting or not opposing legislation that favors the wealthy. I think Obama could and should do more to try to influence Congress, but his actual Constitutional power over it is mainly limited to the veto. He can't singlehandedly "save" us from the fuckups and negligence of Congress, no matter what he might or might not want to do.

...the wars in ONE DAY is he so chose.

Or any elections, really. If elections don't work, then only revolt remains as an option, really.

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Seriously.

I am unable to understand 13-dimensional chess

Or Boris Whatshisname Spassky (?).

Bake

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....Medicare for All, but we made every compromise the Rethugs asked for, then passed HCR without a single vote from their side.

And Obama doesn't need even one vote to end the wars. He's the Commander in Chief for crying out loud.

Nice try, in a third grade, not quite there yet way.....

Do you really think Lieberman would have ever voted for a public option?
He's from Connecticut. Insurance companies own him. They own the whole state.

:rofl:

The President said he would not sign a bill without a public option. He didn't mean it. He caved. Now he is just trying to get reelected, not trying to help US.

I don't think single payer could ever have passed, but I don't think it would have done THAT badly.

Did you mean he thought it could pick up 5 *Republican* votes? That I would find hard to believe.
Which Republicans?

That is a bald-faced lie.

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For the first two years and ended up wasting political capital on a health care plan that is pretty much universally hated.

Heroes end up dead in this country.

:hi:

:rofl:

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This is approaching John Birch Society-level nonsense.

That's not at all hard to figure out. It's just a little hard for some folks to swallow.

Hillary or McCain would be doing more or less the same in his shoes.

Why do you think that the candidates all must pass muster with the Big Boys before the serious money flows?

The people are not so much the cause of his election but rather the object, and some people still don't get it.

He's staked out positions that are a lot more liberal on economic issues than those of the President.

counts his gold. He's a product of a system in which a few hold all the wealth and everyone else subsists on crumbs. He played the game well, but whether he's a "good guy" - irrelevant imo.

the man's a parasite par excellence :eyes:

The guy makes no bones about the fact his secretary pays a higher tax rate than he does. He doesn't think that is fair, and advocates changes to the tax code to tax capital gains in a more equitable manner to labor.

I can't fault the guy for exploiting the system the way it is. I'd do the same thing.

I actually have more respect for someone who advocates changes that would cost them money than I do for someone who would benefit from those changes personally.

Because just like nearly all 435 of our congressmen and 100 senators, he is bought and paid for by the people that want to reduce us to slaves. Alan Grayson was one of the few that paid his own way and look what happened to him.

That's ugly but that's the truth. Reconciliation could have been used in his first 2 years to do about anything he wanted. Bush did it, used signing statements, or what ever was needed to get his way.

Remember his promise of transparency? He had the same back room meetings that we cried bloody murder about when President Cheney was in office.

Better get used to it. It's up to US. Citizens United should be an indication to even the dimmest bulb of what direction we're going in.

When JP Morgan and GFS are your best friends, the people seem far far away and like little ants.

Tear down the military industrial complex- No Obama
Strengthen social safety nets- No Obama
Remove the systemic risk from investment- No Obama
Increased progressive taxation- No Obama
Remove the Bush era rights violations- No Obama
Remove the undue influence of concentrated wealth in politics- No Obama

Its amusing to watch.

"destroy" us?

Lookin' for more "Partisanship" and good will from those good hearted republican neocons and war criminals.

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The charter he signed - you know - the one that keeps him from getting JFK'd or RFK'd - only allows him to make weak, insignificant changes.

But don't worry, he's allowed to brag about his accomplishments and tell us all how better we are off now...

was a presidential candidate. Problem is, he's aware of alot more now than when he was a senator. Goldman Sachs spent more money on him than anybody else and they want results just like the other "contributors" on that list. He has to pay the piper.

Al Gore or Arianna Huffington is looking out for the little people is worse than an illusion. It is plain fantasy. These people did not get to where they are from looking out for us. They got there by looking out for themselves!!! Look how they live. Do they need all the homes they own? Cars they drive? Jets they fly? Power they wield?

Especially these last two stunts by Moore and Huffington.

I am done. I am looking out for me. I will get my hood this spring and then I will go into the world and make my mark. If I get rich enough, politics won’t matter.

He gained fame as an independent filmmaker documenting the destruction of his home town Flint Mi in the wake of GM layoffs. He may be a little self absorbed but his films always fall on the side of the "people".

Obama is not part of the solution - he is part of the problem IMO. We desperately need a Dem challenger for 2012.

...then maybe some of these idiots will wake the fuck up. Probably not, but you never know.
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Increased funds for pauper's burials.

That's all you can expect from these bloodsuckers, blood, toil, sweat and tears.

Meanwhile, the rich have never had it so good. A president. and Congress who's on their side and tons of investment opportunities for the latest sweatshop industry in Bangladesh.

Goddammit, SOMEBODY in America better wake up and SUPPORT what going down in Wisconsin.

It's a SYMBOLIC struggle going on down there. Of course not for the people in WI,of course, it affects them directly. But if it's lost, then it's a downhill slope from there.

No president has EVER won without winning Wisconsin. Don't know if it's true or not.

ailing grandma. He threatened to hit her with a "Death Panel".

I was there. I know.

as a matter of fact, i remember in several of his stump speeches throughout 2008, obama emphatically declared he would do everything in his power to prevent our *physical destruction* but anything beyond that would be us getting sort of greedy.

At this point, anybody who doesn't understand this is doing their best to try to NOT understand.

I was an eager supporter. I worked for his election and sent money. But none of us can ante up the money which GE, GM, Microsft, etc, can contribute.

The big money men won't tolerate it, and they ate the ones who are running the show, not the government, it's become a puppet and a rather transparent one at that .

The fact is, nobody in Washington can prevent our destruction, only we can and we won't quit fighting among ourselves long enough to do what needs to be done. Although I doubt we have the stomach for what really needs to be done. :(

The only question is how hard and where.

I'm still glad Bush or McCain are not in the pilot's seat.

Because Americans were so stupid as to vote in a Teabagger House.

Because Congress is a co-equal branch of government that makes the laws in America and everything has to go through the Teabagger House first (see present budget battle).

Because President Obama doesn't have a magic wand to make all of the above go away so he can rule as a left-wing dictator.

He wants to be reelected! Look at how his pole numbers jumped after he passed the tax cuts. He doesn't like the things he has to vote for and neither do I but if he doesn't a Rethug will be elected and that will be even worse! I just hope that after he's elected and he'll do the right thing and change some of the policies he was forced to sign. I wish more people could understand this!

Obama is aiding and abetting those criminals and has been since day one

He knows the full ramifications of this delay and resultant demise. He's brilliant and as charming as Ted Bundy. He is definitely not our friend.

They are bent on destruction, and he can't stop that. I'm not sure how badly he wants to, anyway--hard to tell from out here.

The OP begged the question, postulating that the president can prevent collapse. I think that that has never been true.

The inertial of the Legislative and Judicial Branches means that no one person, however charismatic or progressive, could undo enough of the suck to save us all--and as I said, I'm not sure the president feels much urgency in the matter. I see him as only a little more progressive than the average Congresscritter or justice.

There were so many deleted sub-threads here which indicate to me that many people are: angry/fed up with hypocrisy/sick of stupidity/stupid/just plain tired of being had/or have just been ground into the dust from being screwed over again and again.

No one who posted here can claim to be "right" or "wrong." We are merely posting our opinions that are occasionally supported by some linked-to "facts."

But there really is a bottom line. We are living in a country that was once great and is now sinking into the sands of history.

It is with great sadness that I believe that we shall never again be a beacon of hope to the world. This situation did not come about because of some external "evil" that destroyed us. We did it all by ourselves. We let our domestic enemies run amok. And we have no one to blame but ourselves.

Just accept him for what he is. I'm taking that approach to the whole Democratic Party.