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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 10:30 PM
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I'm positively livid at the cuts proposed by both the
Republican congress and President Obama. And then the states. We have no chance. This country is seriously fucked. I'm starting to consider finding a lifeboard and bailing out of this sinking ship. Language classes are in order. Canada can't take everyone and I can foresee migration to Mexico becoming the problem if they ever get a grip on the drug violence.
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reformist2 Donating Member (998 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 10:31 PM
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1. It's darkest before the dawn.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 10:35 PM
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2. Or before the lights go completely out
But I hope you're right.
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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 10:37 PM
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3. ....
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 10:45 PM
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4. Eilen, many years ago I excoriated a fellow DUer for packing up and fleeing to Canada.
This was obviously under Bush. Oh goddamn was I righteously indignant. I think I finished up by calling the DUer a "locust".

It was all the barrels I had, fired off at once. It hurt me, angered me more than Bush did because I'd read posts by this DUer for at least a year, probably a lot longer than that, and felt they were "good people". I felt betrayed but more importantly, I felt the DUer was betraying the fight for Liberty in America, period.

And since then, well since about two years after that incident, and especially in the last year, I look back on that incident and I realize as much as I thought I knew about the viability of Liberty in America, there were some very pointed lessons I was still yet to learn.

I'm not saying it's an all-encompassing thought in my life, but I've been thinking over this a bit as well. Oh, one day for instance I was looking up what it would take for me to get an EU passport, based on my heritage from one of the member countries. A week later, I caught myself looking over each of the countries listed in WikiPedia whose official national languages include English.

Little things here and there.

Eilen, I'm looking out not at tomorrow but at the America of 2015, say, and I do not see a place that's going to be healthy or prosperous in any regard. The "whys" are for the arguing but the bottom line is that America in 2015 is almost certainly going to make the America of 2010 look like a cake walk.

I haven't come to any kind of decision but I'm certainly thinking about my options. And I sure as hell ain't calling nobody a "locust" again if I hear they're thinking of getting out of this madhouse.

The problem is, the rest of the world is mostly even madder houses.

PB
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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 11:09 PM
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6. Thank you, that was very thoughtful
and pretty courageous for you to share. I never thought I would want to leave this country. I thought the Bush years would pass and we would get a Democrat in. I guess I underestimated the capacity for callow opportunism and the seduction of power in my fellow man.
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robdogbucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 10:51 PM
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5. Welcome to Shock Doctrine
Crisis, whether contrived or real, that creates an atmoshpere that brings about change to benefit the neocons.

Divide and conquer, make everyone afraid and desperate.

The end of democracy as we have known it.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 01:32 AM
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7. Actually, even parts of Colombia are looking good
Argentina's economy isn't great, but they're also a viable option. In fact, every country in this hemisphere except the USA has national health insurance, even if they can't afford to make it universal.

I'm looking around more and more and realizing if I just have to leave and let everything be scavenged by the people I leave behind, it might be the best deal I can get.

I'm just sick of being treated like shit by my country.
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