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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 07:41 AM
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Mormon bigots already gearing up to repeal Maryland's marriage law
Edited on Tue Mar-08-11 07:43 AM by Bluebear
We figured the Mormon leadership was working to kill the marriage law in Maryland. Now, we've got evidence. The Mormons took the lead role in repealing California's marriage law through Prop. 8. Now, they're gearing up to do the same thing in Maryland if the marriage law passes.

From LDSmag.org, which touts itself as "Latter-day Saints Shaping Their World," comes the evidence that the Mormons are backing the effort to repeal Maryland's marriage law, if it passes:

Family Leader Maryland is looking for volunteers to help collect signatures for a referendum if the same-sex marriage bill passes the Maryland Legislature. The bill passed the Maryland Senate by a slim 25-21 vote on February 25th and is pending a vote in the House. Gov. Martin O'Malley (D) has encouraged the House to pass the bill and has promised to sign it into law.

The state attorney general's office says the referendum effort would require 55,737 valid signatures to put the law on hold and bring it to the people of Maryland in the November 2012 election. At least one-third of the signatures would have to be submitted by May 31, 2011 to the state Board of Elections and the remaining two-thirds by June 30, 2011. Getting a referendum on the ballot demands far more signatures than required because opponents of the referendum will mount a serious legal effort to disqualify as many signatures as possible.


Yep, the Mormons are flaunting their homophobia again. The final line of the appeal is classic:

We need to be ready with an army of signature gatherers now!

http://gay.americablog.com/2011/03/mormon-church-already-gearing-up-to.html
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 08:39 AM
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1. One of these nutcases voted down Head Start
in Frederick County a couple of days ago. Says his religion decrees that women belong at home nurturing their children.

Unfortunately, the idiot doesn't explain how women, particularly those whose sperm donors have skipped out on their share of child-nurturing obligations, are supposed to feed those children if they stay home and don't work.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/03/03/AR2011030303004.html

Frederick official's comment that a woman's place is in the home creates uproar
By Brigid Schulte
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, March 3, 2011; 10:15 PM

"The first thing Frederick County Commissioner Paul Smith does when explaining his controversial views about a woman's proper place is to hand out a pamphlet from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

"By divine design, fathers are to preside over their families in love and righteousness and are responsible to provide the necessities of life and protection for their families," the pamphlet reads. "Mothers are primarily responsible for the nurture of their children."

In other words, just as he told a TV station and intimated at a public hearing before voting to slash half the funding for the county's Head Start program, a woman's place is in the home."
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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 08:42 AM
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2. Anyone whose belief system includes wearing magical underpants shouldn't have a place at the table
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 09:21 AM
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6. +1000
Sorry folks, it's not just the magic underwear, either. It's those personal planets which you're guaranteed while women stay eternally pregnant.

Just. Can't. Do it.
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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 09:30 AM
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8. Yes that too
They are the Little House on the Prairie Scientologists
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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 09:24 AM
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7. What about people who eat magical wafers?
Or people who pray to a magical stone? Or people who.....
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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 10:00 AM
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9. I don't have a problem drawing a line
on crazy. Granted any faith based organization is going to have some component where one has to suspend rational thinking but the Book of Mormon takes it to a whole other level.
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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 10:22 AM
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13. So you think it is okay to discriminate against them because you think their beliefs are silly
But you don't have a problem with magical wafers, magical wine, flying horses, magical stones, parting the red sea, transubstantiation, Circumambulation....

Where is the line?
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 10:42 AM
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15. Uh, bigoted, hateful 'beliefs' are not silly, they are dangerous.
No one discriminates against the Mormons, that is illegal, however the Mormons constantly urge discrimination against other minorities, and laws to enforce that discrimination. I'm fine with the Underoos, or any personal belief and the personal behavior it leads to. The issue is when they come after other people's right to happiness, that is when the underwear and the wafers get mocked, beause they come with silly superstitions, and they try to attack my family and community with them. So, yes, if they keep it to themselves, fine, but when they wish to impose their daft minds on others, that is when a line gets drawn. They need to mind their own fucking business, underwear, stones, wafers, whatever. When they come to my house to make me follow their idiocy, they will always hear about it.
Why do you think they should be allowed to discriminate, slander and organize against minorities they do not like?
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speltwon Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 02:12 PM
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17. I like Matt and Trey's take
They are opening a musical on Broadway, The Book of Mormon and they spend a lot of time making fun of the stories in the Mormon holy books. I agree with them that the stories are silly, and certainly more recent than many other stories in the conventional holy books of other religions, but on the whole - silly is silly. Burning bushes, parting the red sea, water into wine (that's one I could go for!), etc. etc.

I also think ragging on them for the magic underwear is silly. It's a tradition no more silly than a yarmulke, but since it's Mormons, it's ok to ridicule them for it.

I don't like many of the stances the Mormon church takes, such as their stance against gay marriage. I don't think making fun of their religious traditions is a valid way to criticize their stance on social issues.

The SP authors make the point that despite the silly stories, they think Mormons make excellent neighbors and growing up in Colorado, they were exposed to them and had good friends in the church. I should also note that the Mormon church hasn't threatened or rioted over a major broadway musical being released that pokes fun at their religion and "holy books".
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 10:24 AM
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14. Ritual cannibalism?
:shrug:
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 08:43 AM
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3. AND their reputation as a cult will sack Mitt Romney. n/t
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 09:18 AM
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4. They are just miffed that we don't let them do their polygamy thing

So they have to take it out on everyone else.
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 09:20 AM
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5. This is the problem with putting the rights of the minority in the hands of the fickle majority.
Catch them on a bad day and they'll be swayed by the horseshit that these religious zealots are shoveling.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 10:14 AM
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10. Does it really only take 55,000 signatures to put the bill on hold to 2012?
Maryland has a population of almost 6 million. So that's less than 1% of the people with the power to delay the law for almost two years.

Can that really be true? If it is, it seems like minority rights taken to the level of insanity.

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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 10:16 AM
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11. I think someone should introduce initiatives in as many states as possible
Edited on Tue Mar-08-11 10:16 AM by QC
stating simply:

Mormonism is not in any way a Christian religion.

It would be good for the Mormons to know what persecution feels like, something they once knew well but have clearly forgotten.
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CTD Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 12:55 PM
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16. I look forward to the day when all religious belief is broadly seen as insane the world over
I'm not sure what your statement means. I see it as saying one set of fictional beliefs is somehow more "legitimate" than another set of fictional beliefs.

It's all bullshit.

The only difference is the relative amount of harm done to society by the followers of any given religion.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 05:08 PM
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18. I'm saying that the Mormons, who used to be a shamefully persecuted sect,
need to be reminded what persecution is like.

Their beliefs are their own business. Forcing those beliefs on everyone else, however, is not.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 10:18 AM
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12. GO HOME BIGOTS! GET OUT OF OUR STATE!!
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phylny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 03:57 AM
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19. I wish that all of the proposed bills or legislation or ballot
issues on the "defense of marriage" also contained a clause outlawing divorce.

It's only fair, right?

See how many hypocrites will support it THEN.
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